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Sounds like a classic electronic failure. Sudden stoppage, restarts after the failing component cools down. Usually the stoppages become more frequent and longer in duration until the suspect component fails completely.
Best solution? Get something with a carburettor and points ignition, or a mechanical injection diesel.
Haha! That's why I've got the Torana and my dirt bike! All you need is a sniff of fuel and a charged battery or a tin of "start ya bastard" and she's away!
Just ordered a new pump off eBay, from a local supplier too (with warranty).
I didn't get the chance to plug the faultmate in today, will do tomorrow. It is possible that the pump could have stopped due to heat in the fuse box as there was quite a bit of heat in there. Maybe I need to look at a new fuse box soon, otherwise the "nearing death" fuel pump may have caused a bit of heat in there.
Will let you know how I go.
Fuel pumps can definitely give you this kind of intermittent behavior. With their price, and their importance, I reckon that it's a good move to eliminate it as a problem. Try to measure the pressure at the fuel rail schrader valve before you swap in the new one, to quantify the difference. Fuel should spew out of it, not dribble. Fuel pump runs from ignition position 1.
Good luck.
Keithy:
Had the same issue myself, ordered the pump etc... and then thought to have a look at see if my car was fitted with a Fuel Filter.
(Under Driver's Side Rear Door on a GEMS P38).
Sure enough as soon as I changed this, I had no further issues and have been that way for the last 20,000km....
If your Car is a GEMS, it's worth having a look and changing it if you haven't done so for a while....
Regards
Heath
Thanks Heath! Mine is a Thor!
I'll give the schrader valve a squirt, plug old faultmate in and if those two show nothing I'm going to go for a drive with the laptop plugged in.
Cheers lads, will post up today's findings.
Another trick you can keep ready is if the CPS is failing they do it when hot. Once cooled they generally spring back to life. If you get another sudden engine stoppage poor some cold water over the cps to cool it down and try to start soon after.
I think ill have to do that!
I have had the Rangie idling for half an hour with the faultmate and laptop plugged in now and nothing has appeared out of the ordinary. All fueling looks good, the car revs freely (even at high throttle).
Vehicle Explorer is saying that the fuel pump is off when it is on (a bit backwards), but it hasn't missed a beat this whole time. It is still idling away now.
I have captured a recording of the engine idling for a few minutes, I give it a rev or two in there, nothing is showing up! Fuel tank pressure and filtered fuel pressure (I'm guessing that's fuel rail pressure) are both sitting pretty at 30.98 (assuming this is PSI as there is nothing written after it).
I took a screen shot of this very engine data 4 weeks ago when I was playing with my EAS, all fuel pressures and other data is exactly the same back then to what it is now.
Might order a crank position sensor too methinks...
Thoughts?
BINGO! Thank you for that brilliant idea Wayne!
She just stopped, no codes, nothing to do with fueling. It would not restart after 3 attempts, poured water over the crank position sensor and it restarted immediately.
Time for a new cps!
Massive thanks to all who gave input!
Cheers
Keithy
Genius award for the week goes to.... RonP38arover:clap2:
ps: I'm sure "they" can threat this !!:eek::angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by p38arover