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    Keith

    Happy birthday for tomorrow. Things can only get better....hopefully the repair is easy on the pocket

    Gary

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    Cheers lads! Ill do a search now and find out if there is a compatible pump from something local!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithy P38 View Post
    Crank sensor is behind the crank pulley yeah? The one that generally cops anything oily or muddy?

    Maybe I should give the engine bay a bath and give the sensor contacts a birthday?
    Think you may be referring to the camshaft position sensor. On the Thor engine the CKP sensor is on the LHS of the engine block, below cylinder #7.

    Wayneg has a good post on fuel pump replacement for Thor engine...
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range...der-clean.html

    cheers
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    Cheers for the link! I will jump on ebay and get a new pump.

    Still trying to convince myself that it is the pump at fault. When it wouldn't start, the car engine wasn't "almost there", it wasn't going to start and it was obvious. When it did start an hour or so later there was no mistaking that it was going to fire - it roared straight to life and idled like nothing was wrong for the few minutes I let it run. I wasn't game to drive it up the street as my driveway is too steep for even two blokes to push it up, had a few Neighbours lend a hand to get her into the garage!

    I suppose if I can get a pump cheap enough it'll be good insurance, but I'm still wondering if there is something else not right... Will plug the laptop into it today and let it idle for a bit. Is there anything I should be looking for on Vehicle Explorer that will point directly at the suspect? Fuel pressure? Ignition timing? Also, is the pump on a 100% duty cycle or does it cut in/out as pressure sees fit?

    Cheers for the suggestions and the links too Hoges. It has been a quick reference for me, defo made life easier in the research department!

    One more bourbon and bed I think!
    Keithy

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    I thought there was a valve [looks like a tyre valve] up high on the engine which is connected to the fuel rail and to which you can atach a pressure gauge to determine what is happening with the fuel pump.

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    Happy Birthday for today.

    Fuel pump stays on all the time; if you stick your ear to the bottom of the tank and get someone to turn on the ignition you can definitely hear the pump working. It should run for about 3seconds then turn off, it'll start again I think when the engine fires.

    If there are no fault codes id assume the crank sensor is okay, the ecu would onto that one.

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    The best place to listen for the fuel pump is at the fuel filler with the cap off. It should run for 3 seconds after you stop cranking the starter.

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    Same thing happened to me, if engine stops at normal temp then starts at cold, then crank angle. If car loses power: petrol pump (check pressure is 45psi at valve in fuel rail) If car hesitates and is slow to pick up from idle: MAF. All 3 of these went on me at once! happy birthday

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    Half your luck hey!

    Ill have to find some sort of pressure gauge and plug it in! I could probably just use a tyre gauge if its the normal type fitting? Might just put a valve removal tool on it and see if it dribbles or squirts.

    I hope it's none of the other two!

    Cheers for the B'day wishes guys!

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    UPDATE:

    Just did the sound check on the fuel pump, with ignition switched on the pump started and ran for about 1 second. It sounded "healthy" - a high pitched whistle with no signs of a struggle.

    Could it be intermittent pump fault, or have I another issue?

    I am going to move Rangie onto the driveway and pressure wash the engine and bay, will have a listen to the pump while the motor is running.

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