Wheeler Dealers with a P38

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Originally Posted by Keithy P38

Notice the two different MY headlights at the end!

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Yeah noticed that as he was fitting it. The irony was he was talking about checking that you get the right part as he was fitting the headlight... was waiting for the punchline but it never came.

This show was on Ch 9's Rush yesterday. The theory of the pipes on the foglights was interesting, drawing air through the lights to dry out condensation.

Agreed.

I find that with the early P38 at least they put in a lot of time and effort to try and figure out every possible use case. All the breathers are way up high, the car is theoretically watertight up to the door handles, although the tailgate rubbers have gaps in them exactly at the bottom... Even the breather tubes of the fog lights ran way up. With the GEMS engine at least all the rotating parts where as high up as they could get them, all on the top of the engine which is the best place to put them of course in stead of way down low like some cars(looking at you toyota 70 series!)

Not sure if I am seeing things that are not there :) and it's all just a coincidence but I would like to think they put some effort into it

Cheers,
-P

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Originally Posted by prelude

Not sure if I am seeing things that are not there :) and it's all just a coincidence but I would like to think they put some effort into it

Cheers,
-P

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I saw this for the first time the other day but I wonder at their 'profit' -- I reckon they barely broke even.

The very quick summation of costs at the end (it felt a bit rushed) didn't appear to include the used parts or the new badges (which they made such a big deal of). Don't know what they were in 2013 when this show was produced, but those RR badges are 50 quid each now!

Also the car was clearly buffed to within an inch of its life and detailed and no cost mentioned.

Annoyed me too that the front spoiler was missing and no effort made to replace it.

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Originally Posted by prelude

Agreed.

I find that with the early P38 at least they put in a lot of time and effort to try and figure out every possible use case. All the breathers are way up high, the car is theoretically watertight up to the door handles, although the tailgate rubbers have gaps in them exactly at the bottom... Even the breather tubes of the fog lights ran way up. With the GEMS engine at least all the rotating parts where as high up as they could get them, all on the top of the engine which is the best place to put them of course in stead of way down low like some cars(looking at you toyota 70 series!)

Not sure if I am seeing things that are not there :) and it's all just a coincidence but I would like to think they put some effort into it

Cheers,
-P

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If you look closely at the P38 in light of the evolution of the Classic Rangie and to a lesser extent the Series and 110/Defender vehicles, a lot of thought went into it. Take the upper and lower tailgates, for example. The lightweight lower tailgate was much more user friendly and the upper tailgate provided shelter from the rain (which the Classic and Series tailgates certainly didn't do). The spare wheel location was brilliant, too.
It's interesting that all the good design features were carried over to the D3/4 vehicles (OK, except for the spare wheel location!) which I'm sure owe more of their excellent functionality to the P38 than to the D1/2 cars.
To me, the line of functionality (that is, ability to be readily equipped for serious expedition use whilst also providing a modern safe and comfortable on road experience) goes Classic, P38, D3/4 and now the new L663 Defender.