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    Gotta say, there are parts of your theory that I agree with, and then there are bits that I disagree with.

    Touching wood here, however, in the 3yrs I've had my current P38 the only things that have let me down was a popped air spring (my fault as it was perished and needed replacement anyway), and a crank position sensor (could happen to any car, not specifically a P38).

    I had zero faults or issues with my other P38 in the 2 1/2 years I owned it.

    Luck of the draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olbod View Post
    Mick, from my involvement with a P38, the only advice I could offer would be, Dont. Get an L322 instead. Over a period of time a more expensive L322 will cost you less money !!!
    The P38's are nice to look at and nice to drive but they need constant attention, which is ongoing and not cheap.
    I drive this one around and people always look, some with envy, some with jealousy, some even appear to hate me, I always think,"if only you knew Brother."
    They are ideal for a dedicated enthousiest that likes to tinker. If you want one for a day in day out reliable family car, Forget it.
    When you own a P38 you really need to have a second reliable vehicle in the shed.
    You say that as if it's not common knowledge!
    I'll swap tou the P38 for one of my old Mercs. You'll be thinking the P38 was one of the most reliable and cheap to maintain cars you had.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keithy P38 View Post
    the only things that have let me down was a popped air spring
    Quite funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keithy P38 View Post
    Luck of the draw?
    I disagree. If you treat a vehicle carefully and keep it well maintained, they are reliable.

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    Hi,

    I agree with KeithyP38 that a poorly serviced P38 can be a heap of trouble, but they can be sorted out.

    Your pile of service receipts with no reference to any work on the EAS says it all. Would you expect your brakes to still work fine if they hadn't been serviced for 15 years?

    As far as an L322 goes, personally I don't like the "pimped up" look of them. and consider the P38 to be possibly the best looking RR ever made! Being newer the L322 is probably going to be more reliable, but the same rules apply, if it is poorly serviced it will not last.

    Someone on this forum said their mechanic told them to "service it like a plane", which is my motto these days ;-)

    All in all it sounds like you should pass that P38 back to your bro

    Steve

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    I forgot to add that the P38 is my only vehicle and i drive it all the time.

    That way I can become super familiar with the car and hopefully sort out any issues before they bite me in the posterior !

    Steve

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    Thats a bugger about your eyes mate, hope they're coming good though. Both my mum and grandma have had both their eyes done and it's made the world of difference. Definately a quality of life thing.

    I can understand the frustration, just started the car yesterday after a motor rebuild. Had to pull the effin thing down 3 times (I can now get the oil pump grears out in just under 1.5 hours though). In the end I just wanted to give it to a mob in Melbourne to

    I do have to admit though ive found my p38 to be as reliable as a swiss watch. Certainly more so than my classic which in only 3 years older. Though its little things like key synchronization, and that if leave the tailgate open overnight itll draw the battery down that catch a lot out.

    Agreed however, the d1 is just nice and simple (even though a huge amount of stuff is the same as on the p38). I know that's why my dad likes his - cause he can understand it.

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    Thanks Benji.
    My advice for anyone getting cataracts, Dont hesitate to have them removed and lens replacement. Both mine done now and as I said before, for the first time in twenty years I can read without glasses.
    I agree with what you all say about these P38's. Lovely car.
    This one came at a bad time for sorting decisions and so on.
    Money would fix it over time. Which I dont have.
    The main concern with that, is this blasted key fob headache. How to fix it ?
    What will it cost etc. Can it be sorted without going to the extremes of replacing all the door lock mechanisms and barrel and key fobs and starting from scratch ? Landrover Spares in Mackay tell me it is the only option.
    The other thing is, I am rebuilding me Disco to a high standard because I want to use it to spend a couple of months over around Lenny's Gunbarrell
    area. I havent been there yet and it was something that my late wife wanted so much to do and see. She loved Len and read his books often.

    Not counting the fact that I love this old Disco and would like it to be buried with me !! I look upon it as being my Carer.
    I dont know that I need the agro at this time with the P38 as well.
    Wont rush into anything tho.

    Cheers.

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    oldbod,

    If you need a new key fob, aggro is the word, the dealer is correct as far as i can work out, you can read a bit more here if you have the energy

    Replacement and Reprogramming the BeCM, Locks, Remotes, or ECM

    Glad to hear your eyes are coming good

    Steve

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    Well Robert what do I say?
    Sounds like you have a very unloved P38 on your hands. They are not all like yours let me assure you. I have owned mine for around 5 years now, purchased from dealer who traded from original owner.
    its a 1995 4.6 HSE and considering its age has really been an excellent vehicle, most of money I have spent has been on modifications not upkeep as you might expect with any vehicle this age let alone a 4wd this age.
    By the way the Fantom is not treated with kid gloves when we head offroad as many would atest to!
    I purchased because of the comfiort /driveability but was pleasantly surprised with its offroad ability.
    With some considered general maintenance and being aware of issues that other lesser 4wds dont encounter due to technology ahead of its time these are not that difficult to overcome. Those who constantly bag them do so because they dont want to know how relatively easy it is to keep them in good shape. This is where this forum is a great source for advice & assistance & the P38 crowd appreciate this more than others because they want to continue experiencing the benefits of owning these great vehicles, I doubt there is another 4wd that could compare on so many levels. So until there is I'll be keeping mine!

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    HERE HERE !I concur !

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    Hi Robert, long time no speak. Good to hear that your eyes are on the improve

    Keyfob synch with a replacement BeCM is an expensive option and may never work. Buying a new BeCM with keyfobs and steering column is ridiculously expensive.

    Here is a much cheaper suggestion that worked for me on a 95 P38 that I had a few years ago:
    - get the alarm and immobiliser disabled by a workshop or a mate who has an unlocked FaultMate or Nanocom.
    - if you want to use remote central locking, buy an aftermarket central locking kit and wire in the actuator to operate the existing arm on the drivers door, leaving the old actuators in place. When the new kit open/closes the drivers door, the other doors should follow.

    This does of course mean that you will have another remote on your key ring.

    I know you have had ongoing issues with your EAS. If you have done the valve block rebuild and the car does not lower itself overnight with a door or the tailgate open, you can be confident that the valve block and air springs are sealing ok.

    This then points to the compressor not keeping up (piston seal and/or cylinder sleeve), a logic fault in the Driver Unit, or even a dodgy EAS Delay Timer.

    Best wishes with your Disco and P38.

    Cheers, Paul.
    My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com

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