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  1. #31
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    Took out the EMS fuses and SM relay. The minute I touched the battery terminal back on it sparked, and a few seconds later started cranking away. Did not get a chance to test the solenoid trigger wire, but it appears it could be the culprit,

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    To summarise my long story, I had 3 issues:
    Dash lights not working. This was solved by a becm service (Autocode)
    Radio has lost power- still a problem?
    Intermittent starting - first thought the becm services would sort tHe problem, but it made no difference. Then changed the crank sensor, still no change. Then got a new fuse which resulted in ABS error and no cranking at all - it was the WRONG ONE!!! Then waited another week for a new one, fitted it, started the car, and the starter kept cranking after ignition off, and would only stop when the battery was disconnected. All suggestions pointed to a buggered starter, so I bought one. Before starting the big install I thought I'd check the power supply to solenoid activator wire, and it was PERMANENTLY powered, so not really a starter issue. Spent an entire removing fuses and relays to check when the situation changed. After the test light went on and off a few times I realised that the relays weren't making a difference, but the power went on/off as I moved the fuse box- assumed a loose wire/ short somewhere. After going through all the wires out the bottom of the fuse box I discovered that putting slight pressure on the nut to the main power in the top made the power to the starter fluctuate. Got another fuse box, connected up and all is well with my Rangie back on the road, without a radio though. Lesson learnt - Do not assume brand new parts could not be faulty.

    Thanks to Wayne, I be in touch, consider your fuse box sold.

    No to solve the radio problem.
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    Time for a refund on the fuse box!

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    Hi

    Wow quite a saga ! Glad to hear you got it sorted, good luck with the radio

    Steve

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    What a relief. Must have been driving you insane. If you're anything like me!

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    Well done Vernon. Surprised that the new fuse box had the same problem as the one you removed! Well done for tracking down the fault.

    Gary

    Quote Originally Posted by RoverHse View Post
    To summarise my long story, I had 3 issues:
    Dash lights not working. This was solved by a becm service (Autocode)
    Radio has lost power- still a problem?
    Intermittent starting - first thought the becm services would sort tHe problem, but it made no difference. Then changed the crank sensor, still no change. Then got a new fuse which resulted in ABS error and no cranking at all - it was the WRONG ONE!!! Then waited another week for a new one, fitted it, started the car, and the starter kept cranking after ignition off, and would only stop when the battery was disconnected. All suggestions pointed to a buggered starter, so I bought one. Before starting the big install I thought I'd check the power supply to solenoid activator wire, and it was PERMANENTLY powered, so not really a starter issue. Spent an entire removing fuses and relays to check when the situation changed. After the test light went on and off a few times I realised that the relays weren't making a difference, but the power went on/off as I moved the fuse box- assumed a loose wire/ short somewhere. After going through all the wires out the bottom of the fuse box I discovered that putting slight pressure on the nut to the main power in the top made the power to the starter fluctuate. Got another fuse box, connected up and all is well with my Rangie back on the road, without a radio though. Lesson learnt - Do not assume brand new parts could not be faulty.

    I have a brand new starter if anyone is looking to buy one.

    Thanks to Wayne, I be in touch, consider your fuse box sold.

    No to solve the radio problem.

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    The chances of getting the incorrect part sent then the replacement to be faulty are very slim but you have at least persevered and sorted it out on your own. A few beers deserved.
    On two occasions I have now had the wrong used fusebox delivered after asking all the right questions and double checking, what is it with these fuseboxes.
    Now I have got the money back on the last wrong one, I shall try again to get the correct Thor one sent as a spare. At least the last wrong one ended up helping someone, Vernon. The previous wrong one assisted someone else in Perth.
    From now on I shall only buy after I have seen clear pictures of the Part number.

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    So I drive to work yesterday morning, and drive around mid- morning and all is running fine. Had some EAS errors which reset while the car was off.
    Noticed that my speedo was not working at all?

    But I was happy(ish) as I was back on the road. Then come time to go home...... Cranking, but NO STARTING!!!!!!

    So assuming fuel pump, or related sensors/ relays. Going to have a error scan on Friday to try and get to the bottom of it.

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    IF you are going to change the fuel pump, do yourself a favour and cut a hole in the floor. I can have mine out and back in, in 15 mins. When my CPS recently went bad I actually changed the pump with a new one outside work as its so quick. The old Pump I took out has done less than 10k. Yours for a bottle of scotch if you want it. It is not a direct fit but easily fitted with a bit of hose (R10)
    The whole Pump Sender unit can be had cheaply from the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoverHse View Post
    So I drive to work yesterday morning, and drive around mid- morning and all is running fine. Had some EAS errors which reset while the car was off.
    Noticed that my speedo was not working at all?

    But I was happy(ish) as I was back on the road. Then come time to go home...... Cranking, but NO STARTING!!!!!!

    So assuming fuel pump, or related sensors/ relays. Going to have a error scan on Friday to try and get to the bottom of it.
    Walked up to it this morning and started first time, and then again this afternoon as if nothing was wrong.

    I'll update once I've had the computer hooked up and faults scanned.

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