Thread: Starting issue brewing

What happens if you turn on the ignition but not attempt a start for, say, 30 secs, then hit start?

I will let you know Ron when it happens again and before I follow the usual fix procedure. I guess you are thinking fuel pump?
I thought fuel pump the first time but after hitting tank while cranking and checking the fuel line I am not so sure now. Particularly given the weird coincidences described previously. It is still my biggest suspect.
I will also check if it starts after I release some fuel out of the rail and before I take out a plug.

Could it be a coil pack on the way out?

Steve

Ok Ron,
The 30 second delay rule is working when ever she doesnt pop first go. So what exactly is this telling me? Is the system being flooded first and then the wait is allowing it to dry up enough to start? or the fuel pump is dying and not building enough pressure initially? What were you indicating is the problem?

To be honest, I don't know. I think lack of pressure. I also asked because I occasionally have the same situation and leaving it for a short time seems to allow a start. I should put a pressure gauge on the fuel rail to check.

Originally Posted by PeterAllen

Ok Ron,
The 30 second delay rule is working when ever she doesnt pop first go. So what exactly is this telling me? Is the system being flooded first and then the wait is allowing it to dry up enough to start? or the fuel pump is dying and not building enough pressure initially? What were you indicating is the problem?

My experience of this on a VP V8 commodore was exactly the latter... the fuel rail was unable to retain the pressure and so the fuel was draining back into the tank. So, turn on ignition for 10-15 seconds, allow pressure to build then fire it up...

IIRC the GEMS has a fuel pressure regulator as a separate item... does this also act as a one-way valve to keep the fuel rail pressurised... just speculating.. if so, could it (regulator) be cause of problem?

Thanks Ron and Hoges, you may be onto something regarding the regulator. I will have a look down that suggestion.
funny thing about range rover addicts, had a guy at the door yesterday that turned up out of nowhere and wanted to chat about my p38. He had written off his classic and a caravan in a rollover and both he and his wife escaped unharmed. I am sure that he will be bitten when he jumps into a 38. He was sure that had he been in a lesser vehicle that his story would be a lot different. Another new member to join the crew shortly.