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Thread: I finally did it. New MY02 Vogue owner

  1. #21
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    I am still hunting for the leak that fills up my fans and eventually footwells. The pollen filters get absolutely soaked so it has to come in over them somehow, or it soaks up into the bloody things. I removed and carefully sealed the entire housing and cover. The only thing I can think of it water flowing of the windshield and down the cover. Since the car sits at an angle a lot of the time the water runs down the underside of the cover somehow and drips on the pollen filter and so on. Those leaks are the only two things that I can't really get my head around yet.

    Other than that, my experience has been that most neglected maintenance, once taken care of, does not return quickly so yeah. They are not that hard to keep on the road IMHO. I have been chewing through wheel bearings on the front right though, not sure why that is... Probably crappy britpart bearings. Other than that, I have rarely had to replace the same part yet since my ownership of the vehicle (5 years now). On the other hand, "learning fees" in the form of rebuilding the valve block several times are not included in this list But that is just user error!

    Cheers,
    -P

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    Probably wrong, but could your windscreen be leaking?
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    I took the ragged old front bullbar off -- pretty easy job -- and the RR looks much better. The rubber was crumbling on the bar and the PO had caught the left corner on something so it was bent.

    I'm finding used P38 parts hard to come by anywhere near Sydney. I don't need anything urgently, but wouldn't mind finding a good beige parcel shelf and as the front bar has a knock in it (tried the boiling water method to remove the deep 'dent' in the plastic, no luck), a good used bar.

    The front left guard has a few sizble dents in it too and while I'll probably get it fixed by a panel beater who will charge a lot for a terrible job, it would be nice to find a good, straight and shiny Olso Blue guard to bolt straight on. It might be a candidate for PDR, but I think it's too big a dent for that. And it's aluminium -- harder to PDR apparently.

    On UK-based Facebook RR P38 groups I've found exactly what I need, but of course the killer is shipping for parts so large.

    It's a waiting game I suppose - something will turn up.
    MY2002 Range Rover Vogue

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    @discomick The windshield itself is not cracked so I would not expect the glass to be leaking. The seal however is a different story. I have had the headliner and sunvisors wet so the seal at the top of the windshield is definitely suspect. I can see some water running down on the inside at times but it is really minimal. It can't account for the drowned fan (I can hear the water slush inside after long and heavy rain.) My center cover underneath the windshield (forgot the english name for that...) is completely gone though. I do not mind cleaning it out every now and then but perhaps the filter that was there limited water ingress and seeping? It is the only thing I can think of after trying all other things...

    @4x4V8 I have not looked for secondhand parts recently in my area (close to the UK ) but if I look at second hand prices I really bought mine at the absolute bottom back in 2015. I personally think the P38 is well on it's way to become the next range rover classic. Perhaps not as popular but certainly a "classic" in itself! Hopefully you can find a good spare part or two laying around. Worst case you can always respray into the correct colour?

    Cheers,
    -P

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    Sounds like a new windscreen would be a good idea. Ask for extra sealant around it as you have a water leak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4V8 View Post
    the front bar has a knock in it (tried the boiling water method to remove the deep 'dent' in the plastic, no luck), a good used bar.
    The front bumper on the local spec Vogue had colour coded sections - does your have this?
    Scott

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    Yes it is partly painted body colour so Iíll most likely have to paint the new bar. Anyone know what else Vogue has over HSE? Mind you, mine is NZ-spec so might not be relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prelude View Post
    I am still hunting for the leak that fills up my fans and eventually footwells. The pollen filters get absolutely soaked so it has to come in over them somehow, or it soaks up into the bloody things. I removed and carefully sealed the entire housing and cover. The only thing I can think of it water flowing of the windshield and down the cover. Since the car sits at an angle a lot of the time the water runs down the underside of the cover somehow and drips on the pollen filter and so on. Those leaks are the only two things that I can't really get my head around yet.
    Cheers,
    -P
    Before worrying about the windscreen... a common cause for water leaking into the footwell is due to blocked drain tubes. The tubes run down each side of the transmission tunnel behind the carpet and exit under the floor through the tunnel wall beside the transmission. The tubes can become blocked ... a stiff cable tie or narrow gauge wire rounded at the top to minimise puncturing the tube are inserted from underneath .... the external ends of the tubes may need to be trimmed slightly to let water out. Do a search here on water in P38 footwell. Hope this helps!
    Cheers
    2019 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2CRDI (does the job .. lacks the poise and presence of the P38!)
    MY99 P38 4.6 (Thor) gone... now gracing the byways of Tasmania
    Subaru Impreza S (SWMBO's pride and joy)

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