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    Alternator Charge Voltage Not Enough for Calcium Battery

    I have a 2000 Reg Range Rover 4.6 Petrol P38.
    The battery spec is 112 AH; 12V and 870 CCA.
    I have fitted Hankook MF31-1000A calcium battery and requires a charging voltage of 14.7 V. The Bosch alternator charging voltage is about 14V. I need a 14.7 V alternator regulator for the Bosch ERR 5834 alternator. Any advice how I can achieve this would be thankfully received.

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    Hi Lazbaz and welcome to AULRO.

    Your battery can be fully charged with as little as 13.8v in a reasonable time.

    But can be REGULARLY charge with up to 14.7v, and the higher the voltage the faster the charge.

    Thats all the 14.7v charging means.

    So no need for a new alternator, your will be fine.

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    Alternator Charge Voltage Not Enough for Calcium Battery

    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi Lazbaz and welcome to AULRO.

    Your battery can be fully charged with as little as 13.8v in a reasonable time.

    But can be REGULARLY charge with up to 14.7v, and the higher the voltage the faster the charge.

    Thats all the 14.7v charging means.

    So no need for a new alternator, your will be fine.
    Thank you for your assurance. However this is what I read "The typical lead acid charging voltage is between 2.15 volts per cell (12.9 volts for a 6 cell battery) and 2.35 volts per cell (14.1 volts for a 6 cell battery). The ideal charging voltage for a calcium battery is 14.8V for the recombination process to properly occur"

    So I am still unsure the battery will damage quite rapidly. I was thinking of getting the alternator voltage modified to 14.7 or 14.8 V. But I have not found anyone who can do it for me.

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    Personally I would be changing my battery choice instead of boosting the voltage to suit the battery type.
    I am no auto sparky But it doesn't sound like a good idea to put that much extra voltage/ampage through an older vehicles aged wiring just to suit a different type of battery.
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    Many with later model Tojo’s boost the voltage using a diode,it’s very easy to do,with no issues,as the LC’s alternator generally runs lower charging voltage.They have a temperature compensation alternater,not a smart alternator.

    As others have said,I would just leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazbaz View Post
    I need a 14.7 V alternator regulator for the Bosch ERR 5834 alternator. Any advice how I can achieve this would be thankfully received.
    There are a number of aftermarket external adjustable regulators for Bosch alternators. The car stereo guys use them to increase the output voltage.

    I'm with Tim though in that you really don't need it.

    Here's your reg : Regulator- adjustable. BOSCH sytems. – Motociclo
    You just need to either remove your reg and wire this to the existing brush pack, or replace the brush pack with a compatible set. Something like : Dave's Volvo Page - Volvo Adjustable Voltage Regulators

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazbaz View Post
    Thank you for your assurance. However this is what I read "The typical lead acid charging voltage is between 2.15 volts per cell (12.9 volts for a 6 cell battery) and 2.35 volts per cell (14.1 volts for a 6 cell battery). The ideal charging voltage for a calcium battery is 14.8V for the recombination process to properly occur"

    So I am still unsure the battery will damage quite rapidly. I was thinking of getting the alternator voltage modified to 14.7 or 14.8 V. But I have not found anyone who can do it for me.
    The standard battery for a D3/RRS is a calcium battery and I have never seen a charging rate as high as 14.7 or 14.8 in my RRS. On start it may show 14.2-14.4v until the start charge is recouped and it then drops to 13.2-13.5v and I have not had any issues with my calcium batteries over the years.

    I think you are looking for an issue that is not there.
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    Alternator Charge Voltage Not Enough for Calcium Battery

    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    The standard battery for a D3/RRS is a calcium battery and I have never seen a charging rate as high as 14.7 or 14.8 in my RRS. On start it may show 14.2-14.4v until the start charge is recouped and it then drops to 13.2-13.5v and I have not had any issues with my calcium batteries over the years.

    I think you are looking for an issue that is not there.
    Hi,
    What battery do you have-full name? Mine is Hankook MF31-1000A.
    How long have you had the battery for?
    I am listening to what the forum members are saying and keeping an open mind.

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    Alternator Charge Voltage Not Enough for Calcium Battery

    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Personally I would be changing my battery choice instead of boosting the voltage to suit the battery type.
    I am no auto sparky But it doesn't sound like a good idea to put that much extra voltage/ampage through an older vehicles aged wiring just to suit a different type of battery.
    Probably I will change battery but I have just bought this one.

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    Hi again LazBaz and you do not need to change the battery.

    Your battery does not need to be charged at 14.7v every time you use it.

    All Calcium/Calcium ( Ca/Ca ) batteries are the same and only need a charge of 14.7v ( or higher ) once every few months.

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