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Originally Posted by rovercare
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Mongrel! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rovercare
My advice get the newset one u can afford, I love my P38 best buggy I have ever driven
Still looking, but have decided to get an update model only, 2000-2001. Or a D2.
I know the 'starting' trade price is around $11k for a 2000 4.0, so i am prepared to spend $2-$3k more than that to get a good one.
What I wonder is, how do private sellers justify asking as much as dealers do? I have phoned a few sellers now, with cars that sem way overpriced but have been advertised for a while. They have gone out and bought new cars and, having already been low-balled on the trade-in price, are trying to get nearly twice that amount privately. Thier cars are advertised at the same price as dealers. There are two 2000MY 4.0s for sale atm and they are both low-$20k, the same price as a dealer has for the same car (with much lower kays, btw). In any case, they don't seem to be selling their cars yet. I feel like saying 'look, why hold out for something that is clearly not happening when I will pay what the industry valuer Redbook says it is worth right now'? Okay, so I am getting a little impatient...
I've been on the selling side too, and I know how painful it is to realise your car has been devalued by thousands, no-one calls about it and then you eventually get tyre kickers like me phoning. Now that I think abt it that way, it makes a very pleasant change to be on the other side for once!
I keep looking at other brands, keep thinking there are other (probably more reliable) brands but they do nothing for me. All I want is a Land Rover. I will eventually own an excellent P38 or D2, it is just a waiting game...
G`day
If you list exactly what your after and what you don`t want , i keep am eye on used ones and i`m sure plenty of others do too . Don`t want one but see them .
It has to be a bosch injected 2000/1 or D2 ( year range ) but things like max ks , max $ any colours not acceptable both interior and exterior etc ?
Can the D2 be TD5 or V8 only ?
PM the info if you would rather .
Cheers
Hey thanks - esp if anyone has dealer contacts? Must be somebody who has just got a rude shock at what the dealer has offered them as a trade-in for their D2 or P38A and wants to get a few thousand dollars more - probably several thousand more - for their car?Quote:
G`day
If you list exactly what your after and what you don`t want , i keep am eye on used ones and i`m sure plenty of others do too . Don`t want one but see them .
It has to be a bosch injected 2000/1 or D2 ( year range ) but things like max ks , max $ any colours not acceptable both interior and exterior etc ?
Can the D2 be TD5 or V8 only ?
PM the info if you would rather .
Cheers
Anyway, I am really not fussed with the P38A, so long it is an update, original 2000-2001. Really, I probably should have bought that auction car. I would prefer a 4.0-litre but 4.6 is okay, really ANY good 2000-2001 P38A with a service history is fine. Leather or not, sunroof or not, it doesn't matter. In fact a cloth no roof 4.0 in a dark colour would be ideal. There are 3 for sale on the east coast atm, and all are in the $20k region. :(
No more than 200,000km - think they start to get a bit tired after that.
The D2, well... it is my second choice really, but I know I can be more picky as there are more around and they should be cheaper in theory. I only want a V8, and pref no more than 100,000km and with 7 seats, auto or manual although manual appeals more. If it's a little more than 100k km and has five seats, I'll look at it though. I want the transfer case, so really 1999/2000 at my price range.
I offered $12k for a 1999 manual with 88,000km, fsh and 1 owner, but was knocked back (she is asking $17.5k), but then the car had just gone on sale. It needs $1500 of panel work, felt a bit gutless to drive - MAF sensor? but I am starting to think, should I offer more? $13k, then spend the $1500 on body repairs and replace the broken driver's mirror and damaged bits of trim? So it ends up costing $15k for basically an immac low-kay Disco V8? I'll spend more if I need to, but not if these people are just trying it on...
Yep no worries i`ll keep an eye out .
Sounds like your $ thinking is more than reasonable .
One thing i would say is that dealer wholesale and wholesalers price are not the same thing . What i mean is the price a wholesaler gives a dealer for a car is not what dealers offer cars for as wholesale .
So if you come across a dealer wholesale price , more so if its been with them a few weeks there is room to negotiate even if they say not .
Have you thought of wanted adds because as you know the way to get them is during the trade in deal but as it would be luck to be on the spot not as likely but also some of the for sale add are because of the trade in figure .
It only cost a phone call , ring any of interest and ask the questions .
Buying and sell cars is not done in a manner that one normal lives their life by . Car traders set the scene , coarse it makes sense to do things a bit different with private sales .
If your considering the D2 you`ve looked at .... this ones in Melb 2001 84,000 km , 18in alloy , no other info . Private sale ( have to check the vin for transfer )
PH# 03 97088633 Asking $18000
Cheers
2001 D2 champagne 76000km V8 auto Sydney Private 0415204104 $16900
1999 D2 drk blue 107000km V8 auto NSW Private 02 95654211 $14290
2000 P38 hse drk blue 195000km Gold coast Private 0418513956 $19900
Dealer ad says ( 2003 , it`s not , has orange lenses ) hse? White , has history ? 77927km ? Haberfield 02 97992020 $15999 . Maybe the ks make worth a look .
So I just drove a 1998 4.0, 158,000km asking price $15k. It was quite an ordinary example and to me I can't understand who buys these cars for this kind of money. It's rooflining was sagging, the pillar trim were all tatty, rust was bubbling up on one of the doors and there was a light crease scrape all down one side. It has spent a lot of time in the sun, going by the faded plastics. It hadn't had a wash for a while, and generally looked tired. The airbags were cracked a lot on the bottom and looked like they may soon be due for replacement.
Even thought the steering was a bit sloppy, the drive experience was all that I remember Rangies being like. A magic carpet ride. It just makes me want one more, only not this particular example...
Still looking...
I've been through this.
After my '83 Classic RR I bought a 2001 D2 and it was great for 5 years. Really great but not a Rangie. The Disco was the most reliable and capable car I have owned and I liked it but it really just was not a Rangie.
I sold it and thought about it for 12 months while I decided what I was going to have next. I got the '99 last December and it is great. The forum is right, the P38 can be an expensive car to own especially if you do nothing yourself and use the stealers. Luckily I like to tinker and have a good indy.
If your heart is set on the P38 here are my tips:
1) Be patient, you will find someone who has to sell with the right car
2) Get the 4.0 if you are considering fuel
3) Get the late 98 build on (99MY) with the Bosch ignition. My uncle has MY98 without Bosch and it is a lot more expensive on fuel despite being pretty much the same car. My Bosch 4.0 is the cheapest V8 LR on fuel I have owned by far.
Cheers, Steve.
Depends how much fuel is in the tank? :wasntme::wasntme:
Please do not flog me too hard :eek::eek:
You're right of course, I'm just frustrated with it. Countless cars I have seen or called about, the RR has already been replaced by a new car. So the seller is holding out for the max $ possible. Fair enough, I suppose, except that no-one's going to buy at the advertised prices. That $15k car was really a $7k car, if that.Quote:
Be patient, you will find someone who has to sell with the right car