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    Your life savings in repairs running costs and services and all of your sanity. + $5000 - $15000 for the initial purchase price of the vehicle.

    A bit less than the $104000.00 the were brand new and on the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon View Post
    Almost literally peanuts . Just ask Scouse what he paid for his... .
    They're even cheaper now !!
    A mate of mine just bought a '98 P38 for $2000.

    There's a catch though but it will only cost him around $1500 or so to fix (and he's a LR tech).
    Scott

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    Hmm. I might have to keep an eye out for one myself...

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    As nice these P38's are, I hope you realise what you are taking on. They are not for the faint hearted. I had people come here in tears after getting a quote for 2 ECU's,New air bags and and finding sliped liners when the hoses kept blowing off etc. May be Ok if you source your own. Neveeeeer through a dealer or so called specialist. I'n not saying they are any more prone to dramas. But if they have them. Know what to expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4V8 View Post
    I spent a long time re-reading the numerous threads on P38A and discovered two things:

    1. Like lots of forums, there is lots of 'talk' of problems people have heard, but this is like Chinese whispers. Someone says 'I took my dog for a walk' and the 10th person down the line eventually hears "his dog bit a bloke". I get the feeling that, yes, the P38A has problems, but not all P38As bite.

    2. So the P38A is 'notorious' for its problems, but I bet none of you can tell me with a straight face that a Freelander (especially) is the best of British. As for the cost of repairs, I'll be educating myself (thanks to the great resources available) on how to keep up maintenance myself. It seems over time there have been various fixes and short-cuts to repair the P38A.

    I admit I must be slightly mad for wanting to buy one, but I have always liked them since first driving them in 1995. Sometimes you just have to go with what you like, and not be 'sensible'. I got 'sensible' by selling my D2 a year ago and regretted it ever since. In my case, I'll only do 4-5000km a year anyway, and only fire trails off-road.

    I want the youngest, lowest kays model I can find and if it's a 4.0-litre, I am guessing I won't lose much ultimate performance, I'll get slightly better economy and a slightly better chance a liner won't slip than with a 4.6.
    From all the posts I have read the difference is considerable,, with better fuel consumption to boot,,

    dont fool yourself about the liners---

    overheat a 4L V8 at your own peril!!
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    From all the posts I have read the difference is considerable,, with better fuel consumption to boot,,

    dont fool yourself about the liners---

    overheat a 4L V8 at your own peril!!
    Yes, all so true Stick with the later low kays with good history and it will be fine. The Rule is More gizmo's = more trouble

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    Might be worth investigating the 99 ignition change to Bosche. I've owned a Classic, a D2 and now a P38. My 4.0 P38 with Bosche ignition is the best on fuel by a long shot. My uncle owns a 98 P38 (pre bosche) and it does not get the economy I do. He might just have a lead foot but look into it, this was a pleasant surprise for me.

    PS. Loved the Classic, liked the D2 but after 10 years of driving V8 LR's the P38 is my favourite so far.

    Cheers Steve.

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    I have a 00 D2 and am looking at a P38. Save two @ Ritters...
    2002 67,000kms...$44k
    2000 110,000kms...$32k...
    My problem is I don't have time to fix problems...don't mind paying a bit more IF i am getting a better unit...hmmmm....would I by one from auction/wholesaler...I bought my D2 like that 4 years ago with 60,000kms on clock for $10k less then a dealer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meggsie View Post
    I have a 00 D2 and am looking at a P38. Save two @ Ritters...
    2002 67,000kms...$44k
    2000 110,000kms...$32k...
    My problem is I don't have time to fix problems...don't mind paying a bit more IF i am getting a better unit...hmmmm....would I by one from auction/wholesaler...I bought my D2 like that 4 years ago with 60,000kms on clock for $10k less then a dealer...
    See Post #2 above.
    URSUSMAJOR

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    I wonder what happens to the many, many P38As for sale - and seem to have been for a long time - that are way over-priced - how do people justify asking $20k for a 95 HSE with 200k km-plus?

    I have been tempted to call a few of the better private sales cars and ask if their price is negotiable - like about $5000 negotiable. I don't want people to take offence, but then I am wanting to buy a car, and surely they want to sell? I can't give away a perfect '93 E280 sedan at the moment. It is 'valued' by Glasses Guide at $20k, but I can't get any interest at half that price. It's probably not a good time to sell, and I think there's a bit of a two speed economy going on at the moment - the well-off are buying new cars by the boat load, but punters like me who can afford $10k cars are doing it hard with interest rate rises etc. And the real rate of inflation is staggering.

    I'm looking at a 95 HSE this morning, 111,000km, service books and new airbags that the owner wants $12k for. I'm only half interested cos it's a bit old and the first of the series, but if it's really good I could be tempted.

    I can't make up my mind about post-98 Bosch cars - yes, more efficient, arguably more reliable electrics, but harder to work on the engine. There are no Bosch cars for sale in my price range at the moment anyway, but going by what you guys say, there will be...

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