I've got to ask, to helmet or not?

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Hey I prefer a **** fight here rather than picking up someone with a smashed melon.[thumbsupbig]
Ask anyone that has seen a Basal skull fracture and watched someone depart this world for the sake of a $40 helmet messing up their hair.[bigsad]

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Yep!
I agree.

Cheers, Mick.

I think it's fair for people, who choose to opt out from Medicare, not to wear helmet or to do whatever they want....If they will not use public health system.... Including ambulance

Because I surely don't want to pay for a preventable 30days hospilation in ICU.

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Originally Posted by martnH

I think it's fair for people, who choose to opt out from Medicare, not to wear helmet or to do whatever they want....If they will not use public health system.... Including ambulance

Because I surely don't want to pay for a preventable 30days hospilation in ICU.

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So what happens then we have a mentality like the US[bighmmm]
Just imagine walking down the shops and stepping over these brain dead or mangled body`s left on the foot path and no one giving a dam or blinking a eye .
A sad state of affairs:bat:

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Originally Posted by rangieman

So what happens then we have a mentality like the US[bighmmm]
Just imagine walking down the shops and stepping over these brain dead or mangled body`s left on the foot path and no one giving a dam or blinking a eye .
A sad state of affairs:bat:

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Speed bumps for runners and skate boarders ?

ok...I give up, you have flushed me out...I have a confession to make.....[bigsad]

I am known to drive a series landy...at times I even whirl her up to 80kph down a state highway.

It is a moronic act by me....as by todays standards...she is positively dangerous...no inertia reel seat belts, no air bags, no crumple zone, lots of sharp steel...to name a few of the non-safety items proliferating in my dear Lola.

But it does massage my ego to drive around in my girl....one day I reckon my theory of her being a chick magnet may come to fruition...but alas at the moment, all I seem to attract is crusty old men wanting to look at her and talk to me...ego takes a hit there.

The worst thing though folks, is my arrogance....I believe that I shouldn't be forced to wear a helmet while driving said Landy. No doubt there are people and legislators out there, that would love to introduce laws to protect me from myself...but heaven forbid!

And for those who doubt a helmet is actually required...I can show (proudly) a 3 inch scar on my forehead from 30 odd years ago...where after hitting a bank on a mountainous road in a SI, I got stitches after head butting the dash!! Man...I love that scar...that is my Landy-scar...I feel like getting Land Rover badge tattooed over it!! [thumbsupbig] Reckless twit aren't I!!!

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Originally Posted by Gordie

ok...I give up, you have flushed me out...I have a confession to make.....[bigsad]

I am known to drive a series landy...at times I even whirl her up to 80kph down a state highway.

It is a moronic act by me....as by todays standards...she is positively dangerous...no inertia reel seat belts, no air bags, no crumple zone, lots of sharp steel...to name a few of the non-safety items proliferating in my dear Lola.

But it does massage my ego to drive around in my girl....one day I reckon my theory of her being a chick magnet may come to fruition...but alas at the moment, all I seem to attract is crusty old men wanting to look at her and talk to me...ego takes a hit there.

The worst thing though folks, is my arrogance....I believe that I shouldn't be forced to wear a helmet while driving said Landy. No doubt there are people and legislators out there, that would love to introduce laws to protect me from myself...but heaven forbid!

And for those who doubt a helmet is actually required...I can show (proudly) a 3 inch scar on my forehead from 30 odd years ago...where after hitting a bank on a mountainous road in a SI, I got stitches after head butting the dash!! Man...I love that scar...that is my Landy-scar...I feel like getting Land Rover badge tattooed over it!! [thumbsupbig] Reckless twit aren't I!!!

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Damned good point. I was only thinking similar yesterday as I toddled off down the street in my S3 at 60km/h to put my lotto on.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Damned good point. I was only thinking similar yesterday as I toddled off down the street in my S3 at 60km/h to put my lotto on.

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And I think people have missed my point...I have no bones with helmets...I wear one on my m/bike and would without a law. I wear one on my cycle and in most scenarios, would without a law. I wear leathers on my m/bike and there is no law telling me to do so.

But the laws just creep along...as I stated earlier...farmers in NZ now face $15k fines if caught on their own farms without a m/bike helmet. I have worked on farms, once again, helmets have their place at times...but at other times are impractical.

Where do we stop....I am a tall person...if I trip over on the footpath...I should really have a helmet on and it will crack my head when I land. Footy players suffer concussion regularly...make a law, put helmets on...

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Originally Posted by Gordie

Your opinion is pro helmets and helmet laws. I respect that. By calling opinions opposing yours 'moronic, arrogant and egotistical' you are saying that anyone not agreeing with your opinion, falls into that category. And that you have no respect for any opinion but your own..... All I ask is that it is debated without the sledging.

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Helmets save lives/injuries it's as simple as that, It is also against the law Not to wear one.
So people that refuse to wear a helmet are ignoring basic safety and consider themselves to be above the law, How would you describe someone who does this?
We all see people doing Stupid moronic unsafe antics behind the wheel on the roads and highways and "moronic, arrogant and egotistical" would be the very least we would think or speak of these people, Usually it's dickhead or ****wit that first comes to mind.
What is So different about people that refuse to wear a helmet on a pushbike?

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Helmets save lives/injuries it's as simple as that, It is also against the law Not to wear one.
So people that refuse to wear a helmet are ignoring basic safety and consider themselves to be above the law, How would you describe someone who does this?
We all see people doing Stupid moronic unsafe antics behind the wheel on the roads and highways and "moronic, arrogant and egotistical" would be the very least we would think or speak of these people, Usually it's dickhead or ****wit that first comes to mind.
What is So different about people that refuse to wear a helmet on a pushbike?

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I am not going to bore people by going around in circles on this one my dear mr trout....you win this one...I have confessed...I refer you to post #55[thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by martnH

I think it's fair for people, who choose to opt out from Medicare, not to wear helmet or to do whatever they want....If they will not use public health system.... Including ambulance

Because I surely don't want to pay for a preventable 30days hospilation in ICU.

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I disagree, if you choose to not wear a helmet, regardless of whether you are covered by Medicare or private health you should not be covered by either.

The reason being is the majority of people in private health insurance do so because if we don't, we are taxed more. I for one don't see why my insurance rates should go up or benefits reduced to foot the bill of a bunch of inconsiderate people who put their own comfort first.

It's really not that hard to put a lid on, and considering governments force cyclists to use the road instead of having our own infrastructure (and the policing of parking/pulling into cycle lanes with scant regard for anyone actually using them is non-existant, don't even get me started on pedestrians) then we need to keep the laws.