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    Feedback wanted - 10k Touring machines

    Hi Guys,

    I'm wanting to get some feedback from the general 4wd buying public. I'm a third generation Car dealer who runs a yard that specialise mainly in dual cab utes, commercials, Suv's and soft roaders but I have been thinking a lot lately about a different sort of path. We are mainly involved in later model stuff starting from around the 15k up to 30 odd. My thoughts are trending towards going to an older style of vehicle with maybe closer to 200,000k's (mainly because this is where market value does tend to drop out of the vehicles even though they may be we mechanically sound) but being quite thorough in the reconditioning process and spending a bit of money on decent accessories to fit the vehicles out properly for touring and camping, things like roof racks, drawers, decent All-Terrain tyres, even UHF setups and things like that. Obviously things like turbo diesel hundred series cruisers aren't going to fit the bill but Certainly Disco 1's and 2's, Earlier model Petrol GU Patrols from say 1999 - 2002 I think could work, early 2000 model dual cabs (not Hiluxes, they're still ridiculous money for what they are) stuff like that. The goal would be to basically have them fairly decked out at a price around the 10k. I guess what I am asking as we're all land rover buffs here is would you guys be willing to pay 10k for say a 300 Tdi Disco 1 that had been gone over thouroghly mechanically wise and came with a proper road worthy, a bit of gear say a 2inch suspension lift, some 31" All terrains and things like roof racks, snorkel maybe a UHF or something like that? All feedback is appreciated. Let me have it

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    This sounds like a Good idea But for many of us a lot of the enjoyment comes from fitting out a stock Disco into a touring machine ourselves.
    A Discovery 1 or 2 in good mechanical order is a very capable 4WD in it's original configuration But doing a few modifications does enhance their 4WD and touring capabilities and building your own Personalised truck brings a lot of satisfaction.
    However being able to grab one already fitted out and ready to rock and roll for 10k will be a good proposition for someone that doesn't want to muck about building their own.
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    Sounds like a great idea to me. For all the people who are time/space poor, it would definitely fill a niche. If you do them in-house, you could value-add by tailoring it for a prospective owner who has already laid some money down.

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    I think you'll have real trouble fitting all your goodies as well as some mechanical repairs into 10K and have a vehicle that won't come back to bite you. These things are 15 to 25 years old and genuine spares are virtually unobtainable, and aftermarket is a bit hit or miss at times. Personally I'd steer clear of anything that didn't look stock as a rock and dearly loved and mollycoddled by an elderly and timid couple. Modified 4WD's don't age well.

    Best of luck trying though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    I think you'll have real trouble fitting all your goodies as well as some mechanical repairs into 10K and have a vehicle that won't come back to bite you. These things are 15 to 25 years old and genuine spares are virtually unobtainable, and aftermarket is a bit hit or miss at times. Personally I'd steer clear of anything that didn't look stock as a rock and dearly loved and mollycoddled by an elderly and timid couple. Modified 4WD's don't age well.

    Best of luck trying though.
    Not worried about the vehicles themselves as we've been doing it forever so know what we're looking at and where to get it. It's more of a case of whether people are willing to pay that sort of money for that type of vehicle. It can be easily done but not much point in doing it if people don't want the product.

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    I wouldn't.
    For me, and there are some that think as I, it's about getting a car as original as possible and modifying it (or not) to my personal taste.
    There is also the "Landrover" issue as well. The perception out there is that Landrovers are unreliable and expensive to fix. Yes, a myth, but you are limiting your market to the faithful and a few others. You would have to ascertain that market is big enough for you.
    I think you would have to do your market research well. Don't rely on the opinions on a forum alone.
    Having said that, there is another player in the market that I hear is doing well. You give them a lot of cash and they build you up an awesome Landrover. I'd love to give them my Stage 1 and see what I get back but, I don't have the disposable cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I wouldn't.
    For me, and there are some that think as I, it's about getting a car as original as possible and modifying it (or not) to my personal taste.
    There is also the "Landrover" issue as well. The perception out there is that Landrovers are unreliable and expensive to fix. Yes, a myth, but you are limiting your market to the faithful and a few others. You would have to ascertain that market is big enough for you.
    I think you would have to do your market research well. Don't rely on the opinions on a forum alone.
    Having said that, there is another player in the market that I hear is doing well. You give them a lot of cash and they build you up an awesome Landrover. I'd love to give them my Stage 1 and see what I get back but, I don't have the disposable cash.
    Sorry if I didn’t clarify. I’m not talking about only Landrovers I’m talking all makes and models I was just using an old discovery 1 or 2 as an example as this is a Land Rover forum and was trying to give an example that would suit the people on this particular forum. I wouldn’t think for a minute that you could survive on selling old land rovers.

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    What a wonderful concept. It deserves some serious thought over a day or so. Good on you for bringing the question to us.

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    So many D1s with paint peel going for next to nothing, a tidy bonnet/roof respray could gain 2k on resale!

    I bought a solid d1 for $800 and now have it above roadworthy at under $2500. Im only a snorkel and dual battery set up away from a good tourer spec. A solid, mechanically sound, rust free and kitted out d1 should be worth 10k IMO but it would be hard work selling one at that price to this savy bunch on aulro.

    If you own a car yard you probably know how much you could sell them for. Go for it if you have the clientele.

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    Interesting proposition. As others have said part of the enjoyment of setting up a vehicle for touring is building it up to personal requirements.

    The main issue I see you having is counteracting the perception of bling over reliability. At $10K the accessories on a vehicle aren't what I'd be looking for. A new set of muddies, raised suspension, etc are pretty easy to spot on an old 4x4. In fact they would actually make me look more closely at the mechanicals / service history, especially at that price. Also such mods can actually make a vehicle less reliable for long distance touring.

    ...However, if you are truly thorough in the reconditioning and specialise in putting touring vehicles together with a focus on reliability strengthening / upgrading / uprating drivetrain, radiator, intercooler, waterpump, alternator, etc and your documentation and warranty guaranteed all those basics, I reckon you could be on a winner.

    Leave the accessorising to personal requirements. Or have it as an option.

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