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    A couple of QR locos lying down (for a rest? )

    At Kankool a couple of Aurizon's bankers must have needed a restfullsizeoutput_10e5.jpeg
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    been quite disruptive for the day actually, runaway apparently

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    Hi and have you got any more details.

    It's unusual to see them on the inside of a curve, especially there?

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    Is that the spur line/siding for the quarry or the main line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi and have you got any more details.

    It's unusual to see them on the inside of a curve, especially there?
    Info a bit thin for me atm but ...

    Camber could be an issue. It is difficult to imagine that that any crew could have done this on purpose. Electronic control is needed for braking in many modern locos.

    There are derailers at Kankool that could be activated by control if in fact it was an out-of-control runaway, in which case the track could be quite damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Is that the spur line/siding for the quarry or the main line?
    That is indeed the Main North further down at Kankool,way below the Ardglen quarry Rick! Evidently they built up a bit to much runaway speed for the 50kph curve, thankfully no one badly injured.

    Interesting that the locos separated at the coupling, and there is nothing on local news

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    That looks like it is just below where Kankool loop use to be.

    My first official job as an acting driver was over that section of track.

    I prepped two 442 class locos in Werris Ck depot, run them out into the yard and coupled on to two more 442 class, heading a wheat train.

    I worked to four header train up and over the Liverpool Range, to Murrurundi, where I detached the front two 442s and then worked them light engine back to the Creek, via that location.

    I my day there was a crossing loop and maned signal box at Kankool and it was one of the worst places to have to cross another train at.

    All trains and light engines heading down the hill, had to go into the loop and wait for trains coming up the hill.

    This was done to save stopping a loaded train trying to climb the hill, as it was near impossible to lift a train from a standing start on that section of the hill.

    The problem was that it was a steep decent into the loop and you had catch points at the other end to stop you from running into an oncoming train if you couldn’t stop.

    Trains were bad enough but trying to stop light engines, with their pathetic brakes, was worse.

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    Interesting snippets of history there Tim, thank you.

    Of course there is no signal box there any more. Both PN and QR have bankers stationed in their own sidings just south of Willow Tree these days ready to add their many thousands of hp to assist shoving 8000+ tons of train up and over the hill.

    In the good ol' days you could leave the bank engines at Willow Tree station and walk over to the pub for a meal, alas no more with the sidings well out of town.

    This is QR's pair, it will be interesting to see if they're repaired or replaced because they're required 24/7 for the coal trains to Newcastle.

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    I received some additional info on the mishap this morning, form a mate in the area.

    The crew reported brake failure before they derailed and both were unharmed but the cab on the rear unit was pretty badly damaged and I have a couple more photos at track side.

    I can’t see at least one of these locos being back in service anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    That is indeed the Main North further down at Kankool,way below the Ardglen quarry Rick! Evidently they built up a bit to much runaway speed for the 50kph curve, thankfully no one badly injured.

    Interesting that the locos separated at the coupling, and there is nothing on local news
    Ta, I was trying to get my head around which bit of track that was.
    I think I've worked it out now.

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    I just received this from a mate.


    The ATSB is investigating the loss of control and derailment of banking locomotives 5031 and 5034 near Kankool, New South Wales (NSW), on 3 June 2020.
    The two Aurizon locomotives had finished banking a train up a hill and were on the return journey back to Chilcotts Creek. At 1948, the train driver advised the network controller that they had lost brakes. Following this, the locomotives started accelerating down the hill. As they negotiated a series of curves, both locomotives derailed onto the Down side of the single bi-directional track.
    The locomotives separated and came to rest on their sides. The two crew climbed out of the locomotive cab and were later transported to hospital by ambulance. They sustained minor injuries and were released from hospital later that night. A Fire and Rescue NSW Hazmat service attended to contain a diesel fuel leak.
    This investigation is being led by the NSW Office of Transport Safety Investigations (OTSI). OTSI conducts rail investigations in NSW on behalf of the ATSB under the Transport Safety Investigation Act 2003. Investigators have commenced collecting evidence from involved parties.
    Should any safety critical information be discovered at any time during the investigation, the ATSB will immediately notify operators and regulators so appropriate and timely safety action can be taken.
    A final report will be published at the conclusion of the investigation.

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