Synthetic rope question

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Originally Posted by John W

Just to slightly hijack this thread; I have an aldi winch works very well. Super cheap have a deal on with 10mm dynema and an aluminium hawse fairlead for $199. Tempted but wondering about the problem of heat in the drum affecting the dynema. Is this a real world problem or just theoretical and I presume the heat would be from brake action letting the rope out backwards down hill more than pulling out of a bog or up a hill? Does anyone use a cheap chinese winch with dynema. I just like the safety factor of the dynema if it lets go.

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You answered your own question re the brake and heat , Don't power out under load and all will be good no matter what brand or origin of winch , High mount winch,s don't suffer the same fate as their brake is not part of the drum its external;)

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Originally Posted by dullbird

just for interest that link i put up earlier the rope does not have the metal eye on it its a spliced loop with an abrasion guard over the top......

just in case anyone was thinking of buying

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Instead of using a hook with a skinny clevis pin in the eye of your winch rope (this goes for wire cables as well) which will damage the eye every time you use it.
Use a bow shackle, the shackle pin is much thicker than the clevis pin in a hook setup and won't damage the eye in your rope, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by John W

Just to slightly hijack this thread; I have an aldi winch works very well. Super cheap have a deal on with 10mm dynema and an aluminium hawse fairlead for $199. Tempted but wondering about the problem of heat in the drum affecting the dynema. Is this a real world problem or just theoretical and I presume the heat would be from brake action letting the rope out backwards down hill more than pulling out of a bog or up a hill? Does anyone use a cheap chinese winch with dynema. I just like the safety factor of the dynema if it lets go.

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Originally Posted by rangieman

You answered your own question re the brake and heat , Don't power out under load and all will be good no matter what brand or origin of winch , High mount winch,s don't suffer the same fate as their brake is not part of the drum its external;)

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You could always run a Kevlar or Nomex cover over the first layer of rope on the drum too just to insulate it.

...it melts.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/03/420.jpg

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Originally Posted by rick130

You could always run a Kevlar or Nomex cover over the first layer of rope on the drum too just to insulate it.

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Looking back at this you can get a different type of thimble. Mine is stainless and encircles the rope at the ends but is open around the radius.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/05/755.jpg

Pros: Heavy duty & stainless, stops damage if dragged along ground as only small part of end is exposed, easy to fit hook, rope slides easily in it (not crimped or fixed), room for rope sheath if desired, about $25 by memory, doesn't distort or twist under load like the lighter ones.

Cons: A bit heavier, about $25 by memory
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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

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I've seen Kevlar overbraids on ebay and I think the US rope sellers stock it.

While primarily for abrasion protection, kevlar has very, very good thermal qualities and I'm sure I've seen it advertised as a first layer wrap to protect against brake heat on XD style winches.
I planned on getting one when i was looking at buying rope, but I've stuck with wire (for now).

kind of another Hijack here, But Ive just re-built my winch.
but what I have done is take my RidgeRider 1200-lb (super cheap) and my burnt out Tigerz11 9000lb 2 speed and built myself a a winch using the 6hp motor from the Ridge Rider 12000lb and the 2speed gearbox from my burnt out Tigerz11 now it seems to run fine and all but Ive noticed that the drum from the Tigerz11 isnt exactly square so when spinning the center of the drum is straight but the ends wobble a bit. Does anyone see an issue with this?

also the main reason for my reply is, I also have the orange synthetic rope from the Ridge Rider, is it worth continuing to use this? or should i ditch it and spend the money on dyneema?

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

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Nomex Braided Sleeving, High-Temperature Light-weight Sleeving

Dave

Just got mine in the post from these guys...

Winch Rope Sock protector 2mtr - www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au

Maybe not kevlar or nomex but good tough synthetic gear to protect the first 2 meters after the hook from abrasion and UV damage (already have the good heat resistant one protecting the line on the drum.

Cheers,

Lou