Originally Posted by 
scarry
				 
			Where you have 2 vehicles badly bogged,obviously a difficult situation,sure they would come in handy.
But i have never needed them,and as others have said,something else to pack in and carry on a trip that may not get used.
i have done heaps of trips to Fraser and moreton,Old tele track up and back twice,Simpson twice,and never needed them.
In sand,i find a long handled shovel the best.
And with the D4,it goes into super extended once on its belly, easier to get the shovel underneath if you do get into trouble,which is pretty rare.