A spectacular example of how NOT to perform a recovery

Sorry mate, look back at post 16, I thought you were dodging the question. Bob

how i would do that recovery.

the bogged vehicle appears to be down to the chassis, so start digging.
it also didnt appear to be in reverse.
lower tyre pressures
i would be using 2 snatch straps to increase the length, nothing worse than having no room to move

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Originally Posted by Eevo

how i would do that recovery.

the bogged vehicle appears to be down to the chassis, so start digging.
it also didnt appear to be in reverse.
lower tyre pressures
i would be using 2 snatch straps to increase the length, nothing worse than having no room to move

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Thanks Eevo, Makes sense, Not what I would do though. Any one else? Bob

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Originally Posted by bob10

Bob EDIT. in other words, put your expertise where your mouth is,

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Lacking tact a bit there Bob.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Sorry mate, look back at post 16, I thought you were dodging the question. Bob

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In my view, the basic premise should be 1. Push, 2. Tow, 3. Winch and last 4. Snatch.

1. There is about 10 guys there - I didn't see them trying to push it out.

Number 2 option is Tow out - In my view they should have cleared the dirt mud away from the tyres, the 10 guys around the front on the car and with the tow car in 4wd and ready to go started to gently tow out with all the others pushing form the front - but they all seemed a bit reluctant to to get their feet wet. There is no winch and no snatch strap so both those options are not options.

Your Navy experience should inform you that shock loads on tight wire does not normally end well as it didn't in this case.

I am sure with the tyres cleared, all those guys pushing and the tow car maintaining a steady constant load the X trail or Great Wall or whatever it is would come out.

Happy now Bob :)

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Lacking tact a bit there Bob.



In my view, the basic premise should be 1. Push, 2. Tow, 3. Winch and last 4. Snatch.

1. There is about 10 guys there - I didn't see them trying to push it out.

Number 2 option is Tow out - In my view they should have cleared the dirt mud away from the tyres, the 10 guys around the front on the car and with the tow car in 4wd and ready to go started to gently tow out with all the others pushing form the front - but they all seemed a bit reluctant to to get their feet wet. There is no winch and no snatch strap so both those options are not options.

Your Navy experience should inform you that shock loads on tight wire does not normally end well as it didn't in this case.

I am sure with the tyres cleared, all those guys pushing and the tow car maintaining a steady constant load the X trail or Great Wall or whatever it is would come out.

Happy now Bob :)

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Look between the vehicles. A broken snatch strap. Yes I'm happy now, what you have said makes sense. Thank you. I'm a Queenslander, we are direct, you mob quite often don't get it, but that's ok. We'll cut you some slack ;) Still not what I would do. Bob

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no snatch strap

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looks like the remains of one on the ground

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the 10 guys around the front on the car

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i dont agree. this just puts 10 people at risk is injury.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

looks like the remains of one on the ground

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Or a couple of rachet straps - either way of no use.

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i dont agree. this just puts 10 people at risk is injury.

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I am talking about at the front of the bogged vehicle - yes dangerous if a snatch but a gentle tow should be OK. However I do agree that safety should be the major consideration and if in doubt don't do it - definitely not safe the way they snatched the vehicle in the vid.

Eevo has the answer. I said I would hand the driver of a un prepared vehicle taken some where it had no right to be, a telephone No. of the nearest recovery professional . Eevo said , if it was a mate, he would do what was necessary to help. I was wrong, Eevo is right. Thanks for reminding me Eevo. Sometimes we forget. Bob

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I'm a Queenslander, we are direct, you mob quite often don't get it, but that's ok. We'll cut you some slack

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That's generous of you - the rest of us are Australians. :D:D:D

In some ways this one reminds me of a time one of our group were bogged down at Yalwal during a flood.
One snatch strap was broken (or actually cut by the front underbody metalwork).
A couple of Landys arrived full of Navy guys from Creswell, they succeeded in snapping their winch cable and simultaneously taking out the back window of the Landy with the end of the cable. The guy in charge then said OK everybody in the water, and between us we picked the hilux up turned it around and it was driven out of the water.

Reducing the load on the front and a slow winch or tow may have got it out, for some reason, a shovel seems to be the last bit of recovery gear employed rather than the first.

Martyn