Scrapping S1 & yes, I am peeved-off

I don't think you lot under estatmant the price second hand S1 parts get in the Uk. also the rust factor or lack of it here in Aus . That makes alot of the S1 parts like new compaired to what you find in the Uk .


I have always wanted a S1 ever since i was a kid But could no where near afford one in the Uk . But they are very cheap here

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

You are correct in a lot of what you say, however the early Land Rovers have been an important of the post-war development of this broad land. We only have to look to Len Beadel, where the vehicles most often depicted are Series 1 Land Rovers, the Land Rover on a pole monument at Miles and as you said the vehicles used on the Snowy Mountains Scheme.

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Also look at this forum's interest in saving the Leyland Brothers' Land Rover.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

Also look at this forum's interest in saving the Leyland Brothers' Land Rover.

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exactly, that cost me $500 off my scholarship putting it on here.but i still think it was worth it as i know it has gone to an aulronian

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Vandalism, rape and pillage.

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What is the difference between someone stripping and shipping them and you buying them all from everywhere in the country and hoarding them?


Just an observation

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

You are correct in a lot of what you say, however the early Land Rovers have been an important of the post-war development of this broad land. We only have to look to Len Beadel, where the vehicles most often depicted are Series 1 Land Rovers, the Land Rover on a pole monument at Miles and as you said the vehicles used on the Snowy Mountains Scheme.

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Yes, those are additional specific instances but are not representative of the full stock of Old Series 1 Land Rovers that run. As you said, there are many still to be found in barns, old forestry blocks, backs of factories, etc. It is these that need your attention and they need it more than those that have been established at cultural icons already.

Saving five out of a hundred that are scrapped is not a great strike rate (5%). That's why you need to create a ground swell of sentiment and passion, which is what the concept of collective possession is based on. That's why you need to aim for a critical mass.

How about this for a start. Get hold of someone who makes doco's and inspire them to make a programme that features the iconic Series 1 Land Rover. Then get it aired on the tele. Lessee, 4WD Action, 4WDTV,...

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Originally Posted by dobbo

What is the difference between someone stripping and shipping them and you buying them all from everywhere in the country and hoarding them?


Just an observation

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Just how many series 1's do you think I have? Do you know how many parts of these, supposed hoarded vehicles, I have given away? That's right given, gratis and for free! This includes 1595 cc engines (plural), if that is hoarding then you have a different dictionary than me.

Diana

Simple fact. They don't make series 1's any more
NOS stock parts are getting scarce
Repro........... Well not too many are as good as NOS
Same old story supply and demand = $$$$$$$$$$$. Most of the series
Land Rovers from the 50's were bought on farms and worked like they were intended to do. they were generaly driven till it became uneconomical
and parked up. Generaly buying them off farms they ars going to need major
dollars to get them back near original condition.
Back to the first three lines of this thread. Mark

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Just how many series 1's do you think I have? Do you know how many parts of these, supposed hoarded vehicles, I have given away? That's right given, gratis and for free! This includes 1595 cc engines (plural), if that is hoarding then you have a different dictionary than me.

Diana

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I'm not having a go at you, and I should have specified LR's and parts in general not specifically S1's.

You have a collection of Landies and military vehicles, surely you as I and many others have done in the past would have either traded, bartered or swapped some vehicles and/or rare parts. Occasionally you could have even profited in either goods, non taxable income or services. This guy is just doing it on a greater scale. As for the morality of the PTO, mistakes do happen, but unfortunately business people are occasionally immoral, they may get caught out eventually or they may just sink the profits. Ask yourself the question, how many honest professional (very loose term) auto recyclers have you ever known in your life? I haven't known any.

A few years back.. I rang the well known LR place down here in Melbourne ..it's located at the opposite of WHITEBURN NORTH

I was bluntly told on the phone, after enquiring about series 1 parts:

" we strip down any series 1 we get and ship the good body parts ( e.g., unrusty bulkheads ) to the UK "

MIKE

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I'm not having a go at you, and I should have specified LR's and parts in general not specifically S1's.

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Ask yourself the question, how many honest professional (very loose term) auto recyclers have you ever known in your life? I haven't known any.

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If you consider people like Brian Danielson at Land Vehicle Spares, or Garry Gjerdy of CLR and a number of others as auto recyclers, I have known a few honest ones.

Even our mate "Tom the Pom" has probably recycled a few Land Rover bits that were destined for the scrap steel market and that means that there are a few Brit Landies with original firewalls (I won't call them bulkheads because that's a pommy term and they are officially "dash panels") that otherwise wouldn't be running around.