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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Does the delivery records for the Navy 80s that have been posted on AULRO somewhere actually give the colour.

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    The only records of colour in the Grenville records were a couple of RAN vehicles one SII "blue" and another later SIIa 88 "smoke grey", the colour of the 109's at the time.

    A long time ago I had a friend with an ex-Government/mil 88 which was a navy blue color, the colour the Royal Navy vehicles of the time.

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    Bit late I know, but came to this looking to do mine as Sydney's or Vengeance's.

    It will be either "Oxford" blue which is a dark "Navy" or the lighter blue which the ZNA-*** cars and trucks were done. S1s would have been C-****** cars. Ship's cars most likely were done in Oxford a la RN.

    Oxford is the blue on Sycamore, Wessex and Iroquois helicopters, Macchi jet trainers, and Admiral's Barge.

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    although this is is ex MOD Im unsure if this is of any help...

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-i-l...88-ex-mil.html
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    Unfortunately the Grenville Motors allocations books don't show the colour code and in most cases don't show a colour change at all.

    1. I suspect that the 80" were all standard deep bronze green of the era when supplied to the navy.
    2. If you look at the REMLR list: "RAN48 88 6/10/1966 - Series 2A S2ARAN Series 2A, Royal Australian Navy 25257421H 24310698C - - Dept of Supply Navy.Dun RTM. Recolour Smoke Grey" "Smoke Grey" was the standard colour of 109" at the time, not usualy applied to 88", but would be similar to the grey of the ships.
    3. Also on the REMLR list: "RAN70 109 3/03/1968 - Series 2A S2ARAN Series 2A, Royal Australian Navy 25239573H 25315393C - 7.50x16 Dept of Supply Navy. OlyAPL750. Recolour? C205664 could be rego? - -
      RAN71 109 3/03/1968 - Series 2A S2ARAN Series 2A, Royal Australian Navy 25239489H 25315394C - 7.50x16 Dept of Supply Navy. OlyAPL750. Recolour? - -
      " it could be "Recolour blue" but what that means in 1968 I don't know.


    The RAN70 and RAN71 the comment could be confused with a line above. RAN and other Commonwealth vehicles were Duty Free, sometimes the vehicles came from the factory without the duty being paid, but others Grenville had to reclaim the bond from the Commonwealth. looking at the line above RAN70 is the word "Bond" which is immediately above a scrawl which could be either "blue" or "Due" making "recolour blue" or "recolour" "Due" RAN71 is on balance of probability "Recolour blue" rather that "Recolour" "Due" because there is no "Bond" immediately above it, only the one two lines above.

    So while Garry's image shows either Navy Blue or Deep Bronze Green, we do know that the RAN had Landies in Smoke Grey in 1966.

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    It is obvious that none of the above has been in the Navy.

    Wouldn't matter what the delivery colour was, if it wasn't the appropriate Pusser's "Blue" for the period, it very shortly would be. ........ and depending on the particulaqr user, if it was to be properly "tiddley" it would also have white wheels, with painted polished black wheel nuts and white canvas seat covers with dark blue "Navy" piping all scrubbed to within an inch of their life

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    Have been slowly wet sanding a few panels and the blue is is quite a light shade of blue havnt had a chance to take a pic but I can if any one is interested.

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    Is it light blue or the standard series 1 grey - my SW is grey bit the aged colour looks light blue.

    I thought the sky blue/blue grey colour did not become a Navy colour for their Z plated landies until the mid 60s. I would have thought that in the 50s the "Navy" series 1s would have been Department of Supply vehicles rather than dedicated Navy vehicles and drawn out of a C plated Dept of Supply pool of vehicles for deployments. I have no idea what colour these would have been. The Tobruk vehicle was clearly a dark colour most likely green but other later pics show light colour vehicles on ships - maybe they took whatever colour vehicle they were given.

    Taking Ricks point about dark blue - I don't think so, though RNZN and RN vehicles were this colour - also back in the 50s very early 60s the aircraft were not dark blue so this colour was not in use in the RAN at that time.

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    Hi Garry

    Actually the Grenville Motors allocations books do list quite a few vehicles as "Dept of Supply Navy" or sometimes just "Navy", just like they list Dept of Supply, Dept of Interior" or "Dept of Supply Prickly Pear" for the Prickly Pear Eradication program.

    Later, most likely when Leyland Truck and Bus took over distribution the vehicles were ordered direct from local Land Rover dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
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    Taking Ricks point about dark blue - I don't think so, though RNZN and RN vehicles were this colour - also back in the 50s very early 60s the aircraft were not dark blue so this colour was not in use in the RAN at that time.

    Cheers
    Garry
    Unlike yourself, I'm not an expert on the RAN, but I seem to have a recollection of the Iroquois and Wessex helicopters in Navy blue with white tops.
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    Yes - but in the later 60s not the 50s and early 60s when series 1s were being used. At the time series 1s were in use, aircraft tended to be silver or have uppers of a dark grey with sides and lower fuselage in a light grey/green colour.

    When the Navy had some aircraft in the dark blue livery, the Navy was using the well known Series 2s in sky blue/grey with white roofs - these had Z plates.
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