My 1955 86" rebuild.

What do you find strange about the brake design? They are, on this one, a perfectly standard 1940s Girling design.

In my experience, I have never had serious* problems with the brakes on any of the Landrovers I have owned over the last fifty years.

I suggest that a lot of the problems stem from unfamiliarity by suppliers, mechanics and owners with drum brakes and the assumptions that are implicit in these brakes and with the changing standards with threads and fittings over the years since these were first made.

John

*Serious = where the solution is not fairly obvious or not easy to apply.

Probably stems from me being used to 1950s and later designs John. The solid pipes to the rear brakes seemed immediately odd, though I can see how it works. That single splitter directing fluid to all four wheels also raised an eyebrow. I'm not scared by drum brakes, having worked with them all my life (modern discs scare me more).

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Probably stems from me being used to 1950s and later designs John. The solid pipes to the rear brakes seemed immediately odd, though I can see how it works. That single splitter directing fluid to all four wheels also raised an eyebrow. I'm not scared by drum brakes, having worked with them all my life (modern discs scare me more).

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I can't see why any of them are odd. Certainly, if you want odd, consider the 1950s design on my first Citroen - no hoses anywhere in the system, O-ring sealed swivels in line with the trailing arm pivots supplied the rear brakes, front brakes inboard discs with coiled steel pipes to take up movement to them, dual braking systems, load proportioning between front and rear, full power operation, zero travel brake pedal, O-rings instead of cups in the wheel cylinders, hand brake on front discs, just to mention a few points.

John

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She's got what the yanks call 'bachelor's lean' Dinty :D
(Don't tell the missus :angel:)

What's the story with these here Landy brakes? Thread after thread features problems getting the brakes bled and/or leak free. Having pulled one of these daft systems apart, I can understand why bleeding can give issues (really Mr Land Rover, did you design this system after lunch on friday?), but why the repeated issues with leaks?

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We have the same problems with my brothers Mk 7 Jaguar , Girling brakes. Most brakes with buckets have problems getting the air trapped in the bucket. Brakes with the seals on the pistons do not seam to be as bad

I did the washing & Ironing today LOL, I washed my 2 Bronze Green S2A's both 88"GS , they got wet n dirty last month during their registration check, the 2 shorties were put away wet n dirty and they looked awful, so early this morning (0500hrs EST) 0600hrs daylight saving time I had moved my 110 and the good wife's car out of the way, Series 1 and No5 military trailer were first out, then another S2A 88"GS (Olive Drab) moved then the 2 Bronze Green were started and driven for a few miles then back home for a wash before it got too hot, here they are all nice n clean
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while they were out of the shed I took the opportunity to sweep the floor where they stood as a lot of leaf debris had got in with the wild weather we have had over the past few weeks
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it's just as well these Land Rovers can't talk, because I'm sure these 2 would be whinging about having to stay in the shed while others are having a bit of fun lol.
With the washing out of the way, it was time to start the ironing, that is ironing the problems out of the braking system on my Series 1 which is still under construction,
it has been put up on body stands wheels removed so I can access it without any problems
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the temperature has climbed up since mid morning it's now 37c outside, the bonnet nearly gave me 1st degree burns when I lifted it to disconnect the battery
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anyway it's way too hot to be outside, all the metal parts way too hot for me to be fiddling with and my T/A (wife) refuses to come n help, if she keeps this up she will be dismissed lol
here is an image showing 'Charli' our standard Poodle relaxing
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along with 4 others (Pomeranian, Shetland Sheep dog toy Poodle, Shih tzu) all chillin out in the air conditioning, cheers Dennis

Right. You own half the Land Rovers ever produced... and THERE ARE NO OIL STAINS ON THE CONCRETE :eek:
I'm no expert but I've been assured that this achievement involves black magic, full moons and ladies of a virtuous persuasion. Can you confirm? :angel:

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Right. You own half the Land Rovers ever produced... and THERE ARE NO OIL STAINS ON THE CONCRETE :eek:
I'm no expert but I've been assured that this achievement involves black magic, full moons and ladies of a virtuous persuasion. Can you confirm? :angel:

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Nah, I have two old series unrestored that dont drip any oil at all...

mind you when I refill them this may change :twisted::p

Great work Dennis...

Well this is not what I wanted to see after filling the brake reservoir with fluid this morning
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it was leaking from the union nut that supplies fluid to the left front brake cylinder.
I had tightened it last evening hoping that everything would be fine, wrong,
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I couldn't get to it properly but I tried my best at redoing the double flare as I thought maybe the previous owner hadn't gone
down tight enough using the tool that I loaned him (Rigid double flaring tool) so I gave it a go from underneath the vehicle
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I wasn't happy with the situation so I undid all the floor screws and some of the fittings on the side of the seatbox, so they would not
hinder the floor as it came out
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then I found another weeping joint
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with that I disassembled the 'T' junction, ran a 3/8"UNF plug tap in all the orifices, blew it out with compressed air, had another
attempt at redoing the double flare on the pipe for the left front wheel, then re-attached all 4 pipes to the 'T' junction and screwed
them up tight until I replaced the 1/4" bolt that secures the 'T' junction to the chassis, then did them up tight,
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the offending pipe with sign of a leak/weep as yet, fingers XXX'd cheers Dennis
ps see Crackers my land Rovers do leak some fluids LOL gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I find the damage to the paint work is more annoying than the fluid leak.

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I find the damage to the paint work is more annoying than the fluid leak.

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That is a perfectly good reason to use Silicon brake fluid (Dot 5).
It doesn't destroy paint or attract/absorb moisture/water.




Cheers, Mick.