Thread: Series 1 - 4 door station wagon

Originally Posted by landyfromanuthaland

How do u tell a 107 from a 109 john u seem to be the resident guru of all things Landy, how hard would it be to find a 107 ute back these days

As Garrycol said, measure between the wheel centres (drive hubs). Will be either 107" or 109"
Mine has a nice straight tub, which as John said, are hard to find.

This would be the 4 (5) door Station wagon people are discussing.



This one belonging to Ian Goodal from Melbourne and is seen crossing the Simpson Desert in 1998.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

You can make spacers on a lathe starting from a drive flange, or so I have read. I seem to remember hearing of someone, possibly Maxi, who can modify Series 2/3 axles by shortening them, but the spacer idea sounds like what I would do if necessary.

However, I would think that as long as you stuck with the original engine, axle breakages would be pretty rare.
John

Maxi-Drive will make up (if they don't have them in stock) rear halfshafts to suit the Series 1 track.

The only modification you have to do is replace the 10 spline drive flanges for 24 spline drive flanges from a Series 3 or Stage 1 Salisbury vehicle.

Diana

Originally Posted by landyfromanuthaland

How do u tell a 107 from a 109 john u seem to be the resident guru of all things Landy, how hard would it be to find a 107 ute back these days

From the firewall back the bodies are all the same length and are in fact interchangeable.
All the length is in front of the firewall.
There are a few tricks.

1. The front bumper bar the bottom bracket fits inside the spring hangers on the 88" and 109" where on the 86" & 107" the bracket bolts infront of the spring hanger.
2. At the back of the front wheel arch, just near the botttom there is a stay bolted through the outer mudguard panel connecting back the the firewall. On the 86" & 107" this is about 2" from the wheel arch. On the 88" and 109" it is about 4" from the wheel arch.
3. On the long wheelbase models. The rear springs are directly underneath the chassis side rail on the 107" the same as the short wheelbase models. On the 109" the rear springs are outboard of the chassis. (Noting that in the Series 1 the 5 door station wagon were only 107")

Hope this helps.
Diana

Originally Posted by landyfromanuthaland

... how hard would it be to find a 107 ute back these days

If you are looking for just the ute back (tub) there is one at Jeff Rainford's yard on Kinghorn Street Nowra, don't know if he has the tailgate for it however I do know of a tailgate that may be for sale elsewhere.

If you were looking for a 109" ute back vehicle for restoration there is one available in Newcastle look the markets section on this site.

C Ya
Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

From the firewall back the bodies are all the same length and are in fact interchangeable.
All the length is in front of the firewall.
There are a few tricks.

1. The front bumper bar the bottom bracket fits inside the spring hangers on the 88" and 109" where on the 86" & 107" the bracket bolts infront of the spring hanger.
2. At the back of the front wheel arch, just near the botttom there is a stay bolted through the outer mudguard panel connecting back the the firewall. On the 86" & 107" this is about 2" from the wheel arch. On the 88" and 109" it is about 4" from the wheel arch.
3. On the long wheelbase models. The rear springs are directly underneath the chassis side rail on the 107" the same as the short wheelbase models. On the 109" the rear springs are outboard of the chassis.

Hope this helps.
Diana

Very good - I told him you knew more than I do. The only point of these that can be told at a glance is the stay bolt position. Note that there is no such thing as a 109 Series 1 station wagon, as the different chassis for the wagon was never made in the longer wheelbase, so if it is a wagon, it is a 107.

John

Hello all,heres a photo of a original 107" 1955 that i found in a paddock,about the only non original things are paint and a tray not a tub.it had the original jack,wheelbrace,toolrole and crank handle.i have a couple of tubs for it.i have found my area to be a happy hunting ground for 107-109" utes.the other one in the background is also a 55 107".

Originally Posted by JDNSW

... so if it is a wagon, it is a 107.
John

Quite correct John, although I have seen a 5 door wagon body fitted to a 109" chassis, which would make it a hybrid.

On that same point you will also notice that the rear cross member on the station wagon is straight across on both the top and bottom edges where all the other models are tapered up from the centre to the outside.

This is the easiest way to see if there has been a body swap.

Diana

P.S. MC - I love the pics, very scenic. Spoke to Hilton this morning, another 86" on the way up to Colo Heights on Saturday.

and while im at it heres a 109" ute that i picked up.my mate Mark looks on.it turned out to be a home market basic model..