Thread: Pork Pie - Could we produce some reasonable replicas?

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

Absolutely 100% sure mate
You've done your dough!!

Oh no..........

I guess I have to keep an eye on any repro's here then. Will try the other ones on anyway for the time being.

I got my info from another forum and some websites. These are probably the traps for a newbie like me...

Will have to see how it fits...

Originally Posted by Hebe

I guess I have to keep an eye on any repro's here then. Will try the other ones on anyway for the time being.

I got my info from another forum and some websites. These are probably the traps for a newbie like me...

Will have to see how it fits...

They'd probably still look ok Hebe, but, like the others have said they aren't the ones.

I have seen them for sale and nearly bought them myself. I believe they are called "pork pies" too - A somewhat generic name for this style of light.

Hi,

Luckily I was able to cancel my order on the wrong lights . As some of you may already know there seem to be a few original lights on eBay. See below.

First a question though, if anyone is going to make reproductions... will they stick to keep it totally original... or will they include a version which integrates Stop Tail and Indicator bulbs within the original design?

I would welcome of course 100% originality, but if like in my previous post (wrong lights) this could be integrated it would be beneficial to road safety . And appearance will still be authentic. I am sure that some of you have done some modifications under the bonnet to improve on performance. This would be similar and wouldn't in my view diminish originality.

Until I find some affordable lights I guess I will have to continue with the current trailer lights....

On eBay if found:

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Land Rover Series 1 - Pr (2) Lucas 518 Pork-Pie Lights

Looks great, complete, but asking price is too much for me, didn't sell previous lisitng and is now relisted 2nd time, if not 3rd. Maybe as an investment for reproductions it may be worth it.
Item number: 260406379516
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Land Rover Series 1 Pork-Pie Light - 1 only

Item number: 260406379524
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Lucas D Lights (2) Original

(but incomplete)
Item number: 260406378970
(above same seller, has more LR stuff)

Which models featured the D Lights? Anyone has these? Whats your experience? Example picture? These seem to be better suited for if you want to combine Stop Tail and Indicator bulbs within the same light!?

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NOS LUCAS LAND ROVER Series ONE Pork Pie L518 LAMP.
Single lamp. Looks OK. Seller is in Cyprus. Prices high for me, but this seller has more LR and Lucas stuff.

Item number: 140295328165

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Prices are too high for me. If anyone is buying these and starts to make (affordable) reproductions, please let me know.

Take care,

The 518's are what we are looking at. Not sure whether the originals were STOP/TAIL or just TAIL but this would be a relatively simple wiring solution using STOP/TAIL globes.

Originally Posted by garrycol

The correct lights are the ones shown earlier in this thread. The earlier versions of the landrover pork pie has a reflector in the middle of the lens and the later porkpies on 57/58 year models (maybe also 56) did not have a reflector in the lens.

Garry

Can't remember but which late S1's had the Della Red Beacon tail lights???

I have a 1957 88" that has the remains of the cast bases for the della red beacons, I'm not even sure what they look like unbroken.
I have just bought a 86" that I assume to be around a 1954 vintage that still has is d lights, only one cracked glass.

Yes a mix and match of tail lights. I'm not knowledgeable enough to give you the changes. My workshop manual even has D lights on the rear of a 107" and then L518's in another shot.

From what I can tell the D's were used early (all 80" ??) then switched to L518's around 55. The pork pies had a reputation of breaking - not surprising since they stuck out with no protection. Often they were swapped for something else - usually "trailer" type lights but sometimes D lights etc.

Well I have examined NM's pork pie today and taken copious amounts of drawings.
The re-manufacture can be split up into the following hurdles:
1. The metalwork should not be much of a problem to make but it will be time consuming for me to make all the press tools and the first prototypes. Do not expect a quick project, I have to go to work during the day
2. The outside of the original is a rather graceful curve from the base to the lense and tapering at the same time. I can reproduce the taper but the curve may not be possible. The curve is about 1mm at either end over 57mm. Those who are interested in having a lamp one day let me know now, whether tapered straight sides are acceptable, rather than a tapered slightly chubby side.
3. Parts I cannot make are the two lenses; the rubber base seal; and the globe socket. The lenses and the seal may not be an issue but we have to wait and see what other manufacturers say first - if we can't get lenses we don't have a lamp I have googled extensively for globe sockets and come up with very little so far. Does anyone know of a manufaturer who can supply them, or find one for me on the net? The alternative is to use an LED disc for stop and tail, which would be fine but they can vary in price from $12 ea to $39 US ea. which makes the total cost climb I would like to be able to sell a lamp for about $100 AU each but this is entirely dependent on others' manufacturing costs. I will not be factoring my development time into this project so that will keep prices down.

If this circus gets to show time, I intend to pay aulro a percentage of each sale (as I do with remlr) to help defray site costs and of course register as a vendor.

In the meantime a HUGE thankyou to NM and Sleepy who have have been most considerate and hard-working, in trying to make this project happen for everyone who needs a lamp or two which looks like it belongs on Series 1

Cheers Charlie