Identification help

We've been unable to find the chassis number in that position, is there anyway else it could be?

The owner assures me the mine he worked for bought it as new from Land Rover and kept everything on it original.

It was only once he bought it from the mine that he replaced the diff, gearbox, transfer case and motor over the years. I'm trying to get him to find the original stuff he replaced, he claims he still has most of it lying around (farm).

If the chassis has never been modified and that's how it originally came with the vehicle it must have been a special order the mine made to Land Rover. If we can just find the number on the chassis itself we will know more.

222xxxxxx - 229xxxxxx: Series IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne 6 cylinder
231xxxxxx - 235xxxxxx: Series IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne
246xxxxxx - 250xxxxxx: Series IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne
266xxxxxx - 270xxxxxx: Series IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne 6 cylinder
LBDAHxxxxxxxxx: Series III 109 inch petrol One Tonne
LBDAPxxxxxxxxx: Series III 109 inch petrol 6 cylinder One Tonne

Maybe here "88 & 109 models: The chassis number can be found on the bulkhead inside the vehicle and on the right hand front spring hanger."

UK Assembled vehicles have the chassis number on the RHS front spring hanger.

An Australian assembled CKD should have it's chassis number stamped on the LHS rear spring shackle chassis bracket. About where your photo shows.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...8032010672.jpg

I have a South African build SIIB forward control where the chassis number is stamped on the LHS front spring hanger bracket.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...010/03/717.jpg

The rear cross member does not look correct. It seems to be rolled hollow section at the end, to me this looks to be a repair and the PTO hole looks to be an SIIa military one. The cross member is too short and has no body tabs or evidence of their ever being there from what we can see in the images. The saddle holding the rear of the tray is non original. 1 Ton models have a standard civilian rear cross member.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...-help-rear.jpg

1 Ton models only had the one position for the spring shackle pins and the prototype had a Scottorn-Bushmaster powered trailer so there are insufficient mounting holes around the PTO hole, so it is unlikely that this vehicle is the missing 1 ton prototype.

Can you explain where you acquired these chassis number prefixes?

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Originally Posted by TJWA

222xxxxxx IIa Export RHD 6 cyl 1 Ton 1970-71MY - 229xxxxxx: IIa Home RHD 1970-71MYSeries IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne 6 cylinder
231xxxxxx IIa Home RHD 4cyl pet 1 Ton 1970-71MY - 235xxxxxx: IIa LHD Export CKD 4 cyl pet 1 Ton 1970-71MY Series IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne
246xxxxxx IIa Home RHD 4cyl pet 1 Ton 1969-70MY - 250xxxxxx: LHD CKD 4 cyl pet 1 Ton 1969-70MYSeries IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne
266xxxxxx SIII Home market RHD 6 cyl 1 Ton - 270xxxxxx: SIII Export CKD LHD 6 cyl petrol 1 Ton Series IIA 109 inch petrol One Tonne 6 cylinder
LBDAHxxxxxxxxx: Series III 109 inch petrol One Tonne
LBDAPxxxxxxxxx: Series III 109 inch petrol 6 cylinder One Tonne

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The numbers in the 1972 IIa parts catalogue only list the following prefixes for the IIa 1 Ton:
(all with the "G" suffix - wide headlamps)
........................... 4 cyl Petrol.....6 cyl petrol
Home Market RHD -- 231*****G - - 229*****G
Export Market RHD - 232*****G - - 222*****G
Export CKD RHD - - 233*****G - - 224*****G
Export Market LHD - 234*****G - - 223*****G
Export CKD LHD - -- 235*****G - - 225*****G

Diana

Thanks a heap for the info.

It looks as though this definately isn't a One Ton model, just a standard 109 6 Cylinder that somehow came with a Military type chassis. If there was a chance it was a One Ton the guy was not going to chop it, but now he will proceed as soon as we find a S2A LWB chassis in WA.

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Originally Posted by TJWA

Thanks a heap for the info.

It looks as though this definately isn't a One Ton model, just a standard 109 6 Cylinder that somehow came with a Military type chassis. If there was a chance it was a One Ton the guy was not going to chop it, but now he will proceed.

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There were numerous civilian SIII which were ordered and delivered with the raised suspension mounts so I don't doubt that one could be ordered in the SIIa era. Just I have never seen one.

Have you ever seen the way that JRA "factory" extended the 110 chassis to make the 120" wheelbase models? It is merely a straight cut through the chassis rails behind the gearbox mounts and before the suspension brackets and then four angle iron extension pieces welded back onto each rail.

You could do a better job yourself by cutting, extending and plating using regular engineering practices. Personally I have considered entending a SIIb chassis using thin wall "C" section or "RHS" (puddle welded) inside the chassis rails then plating over to box the chassis back in.

No need for a donor chassis. In fact given that the chassis rails are not parallel top and bottom, using a donor chassis may be more trouble than extending, reinforcing and plating.

Diana