Thread: ID my firewall please?

G'day akelly

That firewall in the 1st post does look like a Series 2a model 6 cylinder firewall as does the matching gearlever it could have been from a 6 cyl 109, or it could have been original fittment, giving possible proof to the rumour that there were some 6 cylinder 88's built.

cheers

Everytime I look around the car for signs that its been "mucked about with" I cant really see any evidence - either the guy that did the mods did an outstanding job (that's pretty rare!) or it came out this way. I think its a late IIA (got the plastic grill) so maybe they were running out of 4cyl firewalls? Most likely its been rebuilt using a 6cyl donor vehicle plus some SIII bits (vacuum brakes) - another mystery for the ages...

When I'm a bit more mobile I'll get some pics from around the inside of the engine bay etc..., that may help with working out what's happened. In the meantime I'm left with the only option to fit the heater being some mods to the gearstick (and hi/low range stick) - not ideal but its better than cutting away at the firewall.

Cheers,

Adam

Originally Posted by akelly

Everytime I look around the car for signs that its been "mucked about with" I cant really see any evidence - either the guy that did the mods did an outstanding job (that's pretty rare!) or it came out this way. I think its a late IIA (got the plastic grill) so maybe they were running out of 4cyl firewalls? Most likely its been rebuilt using a 6cyl donor vehicle plus some SIII bits (vacuum brakes) - another mystery for the ages...
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Cheers,
Adam

Sorry Adam the assumptions are incorrect.
There were no IIa plastic grills
Never happened
There are some very talented restorers/mechanics out there. You only have to look, there is a SIIa 88" in Sydney that was a "nut and bolt restoration" everything was taken apart even the gal capping removed. Even the Made in Australia stickers were reproduced. The vehicle today is better than any that came off the production line.

G'day akelly

As Lotz-A-Landies said, there were NO plastic grilled Series 2/2a's only Series 3's,all 2/2a's including the later headlights in mudguard models had wire grilles, could you please post up the first 4 digits of your Chassis number/vin plate No, as then we can identify what the vehicle is,as I think that you may have a Series 3 are the instruments in the centre of the steel dash,or are they in front of the driver and in a plastic housing?. The brake booster is also an indication of being a 6 cylinder vehicle, BUT boosted brakes was an option on both 2a's & 3's fitted with 4cyl motors in both 88"and 109" vehicles. where are your headlights positioned?? are they in the front panel or in the guards?


cheers

Fair enough, Diana. As I say, perhaps there was a 6cyl donor car used in the rebuild. It does have SIII vacuum brakes, but the rest of the car seems to be SIIA - unfortunately it didn't get the 6cyl brakes, so maybe only the firewall came from that car?

I'm not saying that there aren't good resto-jobs around - just that they are rare. I think we all know its far more common to see butchered jobs with hacked up conversions and bodgy workmanship around land rovers. I'm gald whoever did mine did a good job - just the sort of work I would have done myself (I like to think).

On the grill - I got told that the last IIA's got the plastic grill, obviously wrong. Luckily I found a metal grill a while ago - just waiting to get some wires straightened out before I fit it, another stalled job!

On a separate topic - has anyone fitted a VH44 booster to the clutch? I've got a brand new one in the shed from an old mini project that has long gone and now I have one weak leg (the clutch one) I was thinking of using it to lighten the load. I dont see any reason why it wouldn't work but someone may be able to correct me?

Cheers,

Adam

Sorry UncleHo - I was typing as you were posting!

The chassis number is 2432****H (body: LRS15417, Ser No: 8815417). The lights are in the guards. The gearbox is definitely SIIA (no syncho) although I cant remember what suffix, when I rebuilt the t'case it was the correct one for the box etc...

Interesting that the boosted brakes were avail in the IIA, I didn't know that.

Cheers,

Adam

Originally Posted by akelly

Sorry UncleHo - I was typing as you were posting!

The chassis number is 2432****H (body: LRS15417, Ser No: 8815417). The lights are in the guards. The gearbox is definitely SIIA (no syncho) although I cant remember what suffix, when I rebuilt the t'case it was the correct one for the box etc...

Interesting that the boosted brakes were avail in the IIA, I didn't know that.

Cheers,

Adam

Suffix H is the last suffix letter so it is a wide headlamp model probably build in 1971 (but may not have been delivered till 1972)

Boosted brakes were fitted to all 109" six cylinder SIIa originally it was a Clayton Dewandre in line type, then a PBR unit in Australia. The booster on the pedal box were only fitted to Suffix G and H 6 cyl models.

BTW what you have given us is the PMC body serial numbers the "LRS" = Land Rover Short wheelbase, the same as the next one 88 = short wheelbase then the serial number.

If it's a Grenville motors unit, we can't tell you anything else without the complete chassis serial number.

whole number is: ****0454H