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    Nice words Warb, all good stuff.
    I'm a ute man at heart, a 109 hard top style side is my soft spot. I sometimes wonder if a soft top would be better. Screen down, wind in the hair kind of stuff, but I'm not a big fan of the sun in summer anyway.
    My father in-law has me interested in restoring stuff, and for me, original or as close to if the effort is to be made. That's why I was pondering if a 2 would be a more collectable end product opposed to a 2A. Not really interested in restore and resell, just something to enjoy. Day trips with the SLOW crowd, or a burn around the block with the kids. My wife thinks I'm nuts but finds it amusing as she rolls her eyes.
    To restore one for me it's all up hill, little space, few tools, limited mechanical knowledge, but I have an interest, enthusiasm, some AULRO mates, and can wave a spray gun around the place.

    ye ha look out.
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    I had series 2
    It had a slightly different head
    The crankshaft had smaller bearings and it had an 8 bolt water pump .In addition the transfer case had the smaller intermediate shaft as in the series 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Except that:
    • the 1958 109" had the 2 1/4 litre petrol only the 88" had the 2 litre.
    • The pendant type steering levers continued right through series 2.
    • The bottom adjuster continued after 1958.
    • All the SII years had the knob type ventilaror regulators.
    • Dash continued into series 2a. Only in 1967 did they change to toggle switches.
    I am talking about the differences between an early 2 and 2a

    The steering arm on a 2a comes from the bottom of the swivel housing instead of the top
    The 2a has a solid pin to hold the shoes instead of an adjusting slide bolt
    The 2a has slide controls for the vents instead of a knob
    The 2a has plastic lights in the dash instead of brass

    Cheers Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by newhue View Post
    Nice words Warb, all good stuff.
    I'm a ute man at heart, a 109 hard top style side is my soft spot. I sometimes wonder if a soft top would be better. Screen down, wind in the hair kind of stuff, but I'm not a big fan of the sun in summer anyway.
    My father in-law has me interested in restoring stuff, and for me, original or as close to if the effort is to be made. That's why I was pondering if a 2 would be a more collectable end product opposed to a 2A. Not really interested in restore and resell, just something to enjoy. Day trips with the SLOW crowd, or a burn around the block with the kids. My wife thinks I'm nuts but finds it amusing as she rolls her eyes.
    To restore one for me it's all up hill, little space, few tools, limited mechanical knowledge, but I have an interest, enthusiasm, some AULRO mates, and can wave a spray gun around the place.

    ye ha look out.
    You've got a LWB hard top. Get yourself a SWB rag. You'll thank me for it.

    For me, Late 11a are the pick of them.

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    I've just remembered - all my Series 2a's have Lucar ("spade") connectors through the wiring loom, where the Series 2's have screw/eye/clamp connectors. I'm not sure if that's an official "difference"........

    And the Series 2's wheel were body coloured, whilst the 2A's were often (?) not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfendr View Post
    I had series 2
    It had a slightly different head
    The crankshaft had smaller bearings and it had an 8 bolt water pump .In addition the transfer case had the smaller intermediate shaft as in the series 1
    None of these changes coincide with the change Series 2 to 2a! It was simply continuous change, and in 1961, with the introduction of the 2.25 diesel, the designation changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col.Coleman View Post
    You've got a LWB hard top. Get yourself a SWB rag. You'll thank me for it.

    For me, Late 11a are the pick of them.

    CC
    Care to share why a late 2A gets your thing pinging. Are you talking headlights in the gards type of late?

    Your right, I'll have to go for a ride in a rag top one day, and a FC
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    Yep, Headlights in the guards type of late.

    As a vehicle to to lots of running about in, you get alot of the things that made it nicer. Single wipers, marginally better headlights, negative earth, but still with alot of the character of an early series. The series 111's are nice, but the dash is not as nice as a metal one, and the plastic bits start coming in.

    So keeping things original, you get the updates, but keep all the metal.

    It is only my personal opinion, but the headlights in the breakfast panel, only look good on series 1's, and military series 11a's with the square cut guards and no apron panels. It is to do with the lines and the ratio of the panels to the height of the vehicle. Hence I am not a big fan of the 58's to 69's. (Even though I own a '59 series 11)

    As I said though, personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    None of these changes coincide with the change Series 2 to 2a! It was simply continuous change, and in 1961, with the introduction of the 2.25 diesel, the designation changed.

    John
    as did the internals of the 2 1/4 petrol motor

    the early 2 1/4 petrol had internals based on the 2ltr diesel internals

    i believe in 61 the 2 1/4 petrol was beefed up with the new 2 1/4 diesel internals which had bigger crank etc etc and the shallow thermostat housing and a few holes in different places eg the lifting lug bolt holes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    as did the internals of the 2 1/4 petrol motor

    the early 2 1/4 petrol had internals based on the 2ltr diesel internals

    i believe in 61 the 2 1/4 petrol was beefed up with the new 2 1/4 diesel internals which had bigger crank etc etc and the shallow thermostat housing and a few holes in different places eg the lifting lug bolt holes...
    Yes, I believe that is correct. As many parts as possible were made common between the petrol and diesel engines, right from 1958, so when changes were made to the deisel they were, where possible , incorporated in the petrol engine as well. (although, judging from other changes it would be surprising if all these changes coincided exactly with the change to 2a!)

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