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    Which speedo cable?

    Any experts here?

    Not long bought my series 2a and the speedo never worked. Turns out it's snapped. To confuse matters it is a series 3 chassis and I think gearbox.

    The back of the gauge is a screw connection and the gearbox end has the Round plate with 3 screw holes. From looking on google all series 3 cables have a clip on the gauge end and all series 2 cables don't have the round mounting plate at the gearbox end.

    Am I missing something? Am I over complicating this? What have others done.

    Thanks guys.

    G

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    If you can get both pieces of the broken cable out, it's not hard to find a speedo mob in Melb to make a new one.h

    And I mean the inner cable, not sure from your post if the outer is broken also
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    Not sure exactly how it mounts at the gearbox end on a IIa, I'll have to have a look.

    Getting a cable made could be relatively expensive, cheaper option would be to fit a secondhand S3 speedo and then you can get a cable from any of the LR parts suppliers.


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    The difference between the Series 3 and Series 2 cables are:

    1. Series 3 cable is longer, has clip on to speedo

    2. Series 1/2/2a cable is shorter and screws onto speedo.

    Gearbox end is identical.

    Note that 6 cylinder cables are slightly longer, V8/Isuzu Stage 1 cables different gearbox end.

    Sounds like you have a Series 2a cable and speedo.

    Note that the speedos are interchangeable between Series 2a and 3, if you use the appropriate cable (the extra length is not a problem with the S3 cable in S2a, but the 2a cable into a 3 will be too short.

    The speedos have different gearing, according to whether they are intended for 6.00 or 7.50 tyres, and there are a surprising number of different speedos apart from this - with or without warning lights, with and without trip odometer, kph or mph, and the six cylinder ones go to a higher speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    The difference between the Series 3 and Series 2 cables are:

    1. Series 3 cable is longer, has clip on to speedo

    2. Series 1/2/2a cable is shorter and screws onto speedo.

    Gearbox end is identical.

    Note that 6 cylinder cables are slightly longer, V8/Isuzu Stage 1 cables different gearbox end.

    Sounds like you have a Series 2a cable and speedo.

    Note that the speedos are interchangeable between Series 2a and 3, if you use the appropriate cable (the extra length is not a problem with the S3 cable in S2a, but the 2a cable into a 3 will be too short.

    The speedos have different gearing, according to whether they are intended for 6.00 or 7.50 tyres, and there are a surprising number of different speedos apart from this - with or without warning lights, with and without trip odometer, kph or mph, and the six cylinder ones go to a higher speed.

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    Thanks John, RTC3484 it is then. Why would the 2a cable be to short? I would like to stick with the speedo in it as it looks to be a refurb one. Or at least it's in good condition.

    Strangely the cable that is in it looks quite new and is to long. I wonder if the PO had a crack at it? Maybe with a 6cyl cable. Hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post

    Gearbox end is identical.
    Just had a look in the shed.
    Series III cable has the plate with three holes assembled onto the cable, Series II/IIa doesn't. Is this because the plate can be slipped over the speedo end of the Series II cable whereas the III it has to be supplied with the cable because the speedo end connection is bigger ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Not sure exactly how it mounts at the gearbox end on a IIa, I'll have to have a look.

    Getting a cable made could be relatively expensive, cheaper option would be to fit a secondhand S3 speedo and then you can get a cable from any of the LR parts suppliers.


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    If your cable is connected at the gearbox and the speedo, then the inner cable is broken, as I believe you mean, then getting a new inner made is easy and shouldn't be too expensive, you do not have to change the outer cable
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Just had a look in the shed.
    Series III cable has the plate with three holes assembled onto the cable, Series II/IIa doesn't. Is this because the plate can be slipped over the speedo end of the Series II cable whereas the III it has to be supplied with the cable because the speedo end connection is bigger ?
    Thanks Colin, Hopefully I can re-use the plate then, sound logical

    Quote Originally Posted by harry View Post
    If your cable is connected at the gearbox and the speedo, then the inner cable is broken, as I believe you mean, then getting a new inner made is easy and shouldn't be too expensive, you do not have to change the outer cable
    Inner def snapped off. About 2" from the speedo end. I thought about cuting it back but how do you make the end square? Not sure where to take it either so for ?4 I'm going to get a new one. I have an order with Paddocks on the go so I can tack it on.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirocco View Post
    Thanks John, RTC3484 it is then. Why would the 2a cable be to short? I would like to stick with the speedo in it as it looks to be a refurb one. Or at least it's in good condition.

    Strangely the cable that is in it looks quite new and is to long. I wonder if the PO had a crack at it? Maybe with a 6cyl cable. Hmmm.

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    The Series 3 speedo is in front of the driver and higher, the Series 1/2/2a is in the middle. Since the cable exits left from the gearbox, this means it is further to the S3 speedo. And, just for completeness, on the six the gearbox is further back.

    When changing the cable, at the gearbox end the little screws are a pain, especially if you have an overdrive. And don't lose them, they are BA, and can be a bit hard to replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    When changing the cable, at the gearbox end the little screws are a pain, especially if you have an overdrive. And don't lose them, they are BA, and can be a bit hard to replace.

    John
    I will second that. Use an appropriate size 1/4 drive socket, and hold the screw into the socket with grease.

    Aaron

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