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Managed another coat on the doors, seat rails, some washers and the hinge/door bolts. Plus a coat on dropped hinge.
Also found time to explore some nearby bush, found a creek with no tannin a bit unusual, but my little 16" Stihl wasn't up to some of the obstructions.
Cheers Paul
todays progress......I wasn't happy with drivers door so wet and dried and sprayed another coat, also second coated hinge that fell on dirt.
Decided to remove bonnet to prep for paint and two ventilation flaps. Sheared a screw on the drivers flap, after thinking about it for a few minutes decided to blank screw inserts and use other holes with nutserts for control arms when I reassemble.
Doesn't seem to much rust in bonnet frame so I'll slosh some paint in the frame like I did to the doors and clean up surface rust.
Cheers Paul
Some questions....Where bonnet hinges attach to bulkhead it seems flimsy is this correct, it seems as if the strain of the hinges has delaminated bulkhead, bit of a worry because I intend to put a spare tire on the bonnet ( first two pictures)?
What are the two holes adjacent to female hinge fitting for?(3rd pic)
Also why are there holes in the guard (4th pic) its as if the radiator panel should be more forward to pickup holes. Both guards have them.
Cheers Paul
The holes next to the hinges are for rubber buffer plugs.
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Not sure about the holes on the inner wings.
Maybe the radiator support panel has been moved forward at some time to accommodate a larger foreign motor/radiator (like the one below).
People have done some strange things to Land Rovers over the years.
Cheers, Mick.
1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
1971 S2A 88
1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
1972 S3 88 x 2
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
REMLR 88
1969 BSA Bantam B175
I agree with Mick, except to note that rather than your vehicle having had a different engine, perhaps the guards are from one that did.
I can't comment on the delamination except to speculate that it is more likely to be the result of rust rather than load on the bonnet - I don't recall ever seeing that effect.
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
Mick And John thanks for you input .....are the guards 2a as lights are in them?
Where the delamination is occurring its rust free I think ...dark now, but will have a closer look tomorrow, what I saw this arvo was as if a skin had been added to outer fire wall in vent area, but female bonnet hinge is welded to this bit inducing the stress
there is no evidence of spot welds, my first thought was to rivet two bits together to close the gap but I doubt the strength of this fix
Mick your link to land rover parts has bulkhead fix bits but cant see a full width panel including both vents will look for a centre join tomorrow.....but maybe one is available and someone has done a bodgy fix in the past
I cant believe based on the engineering I'm seeing during the deconstruct that Land Rover would weld female bonnet hinge bit to basically an 18# piece of sheet metal. I sort of expected through bolts and compression tubes
Unfortunately none of my manual's show front view of bulkhead to see original hinge setup
Cheers Paul
Last edited by bemm52; 28th October 2016 at 09:40 PM. Reason: correction
1. Those guards never left the factory with those headlights in them - the 2a with wide lights had recessed sections for the lights, same as Series 3. The only ones made like that were NAS Series 2a, and it is unlikely any of them ever came here.
2. That open join is spot welded - just had a look at mine.
3. The pictures you show are the original structure (or a pretty accurate replacement). The hinges are welded to that panel with no other support as far as I know. This is a structure that has remained essentially unchanged from the start of Series 2 in 1958 (maybe even start of 86 in 1954) until the last Defender this year, and is not known as a failure point, so the engineering can't be too bad. The hinges are welded to a complex pressed shape reinforced half an inch away by the similarly complex pressed inner skin spot welded to it around the edge of the vent opening.
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
From the pics you have posted of the bulkhead it looks to be separating from the inside/cabin side. Has the dash been tampered with or the drivers weight on the steering wheel caused it due to loose bracketry or something? Land Rover bonnets have been carrying 750x16 wheels and sometimes even more on them, over very rough terrain for decades, and the bulkheads don't seem to fail.
There must be some other underlying cause.
Some pics from the cabin side might help.
The bulkhead repair pieces listed usually cover all the problem sections that are subject to replacement, unless you have a vehicle that has been in a highly corrosive environment.
Cheers, Mick.
1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
1971 S2A 88
1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
1972 S3 88 x 2
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
REMLR 88
1969 BSA Bantam B175
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