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  1. #61
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    Hey guys, I am currently rebuilding my steering box. Do I need a paper gasket between each shim on the end cover? The kit only came with 2 end cover gaskets?
    Cheers
    Simon

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    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
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    Hey John,

    So as I understand from the workshop manual, one gasket goes between the steering shaft casing and box. Does the other one go between the shims and box or the shims and cover?

    Cheers
    Simon

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    Actually, looking it up (rather than relying on memory), the manual and parts books are inconsistent. I would prefer to have three paper gaskets, one between the outer shaft and the box, and one each side of the stack of shims on the bottom. The shims should seal between each other as long as they are not rusty or damaged. Any leak from these joints should be pretty minimal - there is no pressure.

    Hope this helps
    John

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    1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Actually, looking it up (rather than relying on memory), the manual and parts books are inconsistent. I would prefer to have three paper gaskets, one between the outer shaft and the box, and one each side of the stack of shims on the bottom. The shims should seal between each other as long as they are not rusty or damaged. Any leak from these joints should be pretty minimal - there is no pressure.

    Hope this helps
    I gave my shims a very light application of silastic just in case.
    Cheers, Rod


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    1967 Series 2a. 109 4 cyl petrol, Fairey o/drive, Athol Hedges roof.
    Currently undergoing rebuild.
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    1975 Series 3. 109 6cyl 186, 5 speed Nissan cabstar gearbox, mechanical winch, roo bar, kings awning, 50" light bar, roof rack, twin 6"light bars, kings awning tent.

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    Thanks for the reply’s. I have looked around online and looks like some rebuild kits come with 3 and some with two.... I have found gaskets separately so I’ll grab some with my next order. Another question - I replaced the upper bearing in the steering shaft and it went in, but really tight.. i test fit the steering shaft and there is no way it is going in there. Does anyone know where to get a replacement non Britpart? I bought a “quality aftermarket “ part from paddocks and it is far from it...

    Cheers
    Simon

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMIS1234 View Post
    Thanks for the reply’s. I have looked around online and looks like some rebuild kits come with 3 and some with two.... I have found gaskets separately so I’ll grab some with my next order. Another question - I replaced the upper bearing in the steering shaft and it went in, but really tight.. i test fit the steering shaft and there is no way it is going in there. Does anyone know where to get a replacement non Britpart? I bought a “quality aftermarket “ part from paddocks and it is far from it...

    Cheers
    Simon
    h simon i have very good s3 steering boxs here will go straight in jim
    Russell Rovers
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMIS1234 View Post
    I have looked around online and looks like some rebuild kits come with 3 and some with two.... I have found gaskets separately so I’ll grab some with my next order.
    I spoke with a local Land Rover 'expert' and he doesn't use the gaskets. I used Permatex No1 sealant, which is hard setting, and no gaskets.

    The bigger issue you will find is getting hold of a selection of shims so you can set the steering box up to have a slight pre-load on the bearings but not too much which will damage them. I managed to strip another box & gain some shims.
    Check the bearing surfaces on the shaft, on the one I've just overhauled there was pitting which meant the shaft was scrap, luckily another was salvaged from a wreck.

    2a GS Refurb ARN 178-334


    Colin
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    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
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    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I spoke with a local Land Rover 'expert' and he doesn't use the gaskets. I used Permatex No1 sealant, which is hard setting, and no gaskets.

    The bigger issue you will find is getting hold of a selection of shims so you can set the steering box up to have a slight pre-load on the bearings but not too much which will damage them. I managed to strip another box & gain some shims.
    Check the bearing surfaces on the shaft, on the one I've just overhauled there was pitting which meant the shaft was scrap, luckily another was salvaged from a wreck.

    2a GS Refurb ARN 178-334


    Colin
    Thanks Colin, yes the bearing surfaces seem to be in good nick. I have a spare box too. The current box had 5 shims so I’ll see how I go when I put it all back together.

    Thanks again for the info,
    Simon

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