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  1. 23rd August 2017, 08:22 AM #11
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    Series II engine strip down

    i have two or three early water pumps laying around as well as a NOS stock one i intend to use on this engine

    am happy to sell you the best of them if you are interested.








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    I have had someone in Northmead (Sydney) rebuilding my series 2 engine. (Rebuilding an engine is way beyond my skill level). Key issues I had in gettng parts are:

    - water pump - my engine had the 8 hole water pump rather than the 9 hole pump used on series 2a. This was very hard to find and expensive. We rebuilt the pump. My suggestion is if you have the 8 hole type (and even a spare) keep it - if you want to get rid of it I would pay $200 for it in any condition.

    - crankshaft bearings - my engine was the 3 bearing type and the bearing were smaller than the later model 3 bearing engine. (Later again a 5 bearing engine was introduced). Only place I could find the smaller 3 bearings was UK website Craddocks.

    Apparently my engine is nearly done and I will post some photo's when I get it back (My thread is Series 2 restoration in the Hunter Valley).

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  2. 23rd August 2017, 12:29 PM #12
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    Comparing water pump on my 1961 engine block with incisor's photos above: Obviously not original, having thick dark green paint on it. Does not have numbers on casting or the slotted hole on opposite side, which I presume is where generator belt tightener bolt would go. On mine, same uses next bolt hole anticlockwise.

    Maybe someone should comment here as to what else needs to be changed so later water pump could be used on an early motor if original type is unavailable. Maybe the whole timing case, which also incorporates water pump housing. Or can the existing case can be modified to allow later pump to fit properly.
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    you can't use a later water pump, they sit in a different place and at a different hight with different bolt holes.

    i am lead to believe you can use a the later rebuild kit in the older housing.

    that pump came off the motor in the picture so i know it fits
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    Excuse my ignorance, but what does NOS mean/stand for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
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    Speaking of NOS, the Army must have had crates and crates of bits for these. Probably sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Love to find it. Of course, they might have dumped it all as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but what does NOS mean/stand for?
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    New Old Stock
    In other words, brand new stuff that us old bastards have been collecting and hoarding for years thinking, one day that will come in handy ( despite what your wife says ).
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    Haha,, yessss, the wife
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    JT, when I lived in Albury, we had a wrecker who used to buy direct from the army,,, he had loads of stuff in boxes 📦,,, but alas, he has gone now, although he's still around and still a bit involved I think.
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