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    Series 2A Radiator

    Hi Gang,

    We are still chasing a Series 2A radiator for The Camel. The original one he came with was for a LX Torana which I am not keen on using again as I doubt it would have enough thermal rejection to keep Camel cool whilst doing slow stuff and towing being only a 2-core.

    I have tried twice now to buy an aluminium radiator off eBay but twice now they have sent me one for a Series III even though they state it was for a Series 2/2A (beware here people, different vendor on eBay but same Chinese company purporting to have the right radiators but they don't!)...

    Because of the Holden 202 on the Camel I really want to put in a 3/4-core aluminium jobby with thermo fan. Has anyone out there in Land Rover land gone down this route and if so can you give me a lead on where you got it???

    Any help would be appreciated, its the last link in the chain and we are getting a bit desperate!!

    Cheers and thanks,
    Tricky and Plugger

    P.S. For those of you who haven't visited The Camel build (what, you're kidding right!!! ) its in the Projects and Tutorials section here: Plugger and The Camel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel007 View Post
    Hi Gang,

    We are still chasing a Series 2A radiator for The Camel. The original one he came with was for a LX Torana which I am not keen on using again as I doubt it would have enough thermal rejection to keep Camel cool whilst doing slow stuff and towing being only a 2-core.

    I have tried twice now to buy an aluminium radiator off eBay but twice now they have sent me one for a Series III even though they state it was for a Series 2/2A (beware here people, different vendor on eBay but same Chinese company purporting to have the right radiators but they don't!)...

    Because of the Holden 202 on the Camel I really want to put in a 3/4-core aluminium jobby with thermo fan. Has anyone out there in Land Rover land gone down this route and if so can you give me a lead on where you got it???

    Any help would be appreciated, its the last link in the chain and we are getting a bit desperate!!

    Cheers and thanks,
    Tricky and Plugger

    P.S. For those of you who haven't visited The Camel build (what, you're kidding right!!! ) its in the Projects and Tutorials section here: Plugger and The Camel
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    Tricky, have you looked into a heavier duty version of what you already have?
    My daily driver has a high capacity Torana radiator in it.

    Cheers, Mick.
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    I thought I saw on Ebay an aluminium radiator for a series vehicle to suit a holden 6 with the correct outlet sizes and ready to fit straight in.
    What is the difference between a 11a and 3 radiator ? that a drill and hammer cant fix ?

    Ian
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    As far as I know the radiators are interchangeable (for same engine), but the 2a has a rectangular section top tank with a flat top and a large filler cap, where the S3 has a round section top tank. The attachment for the shroud is a bit different as well.
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    The series 2 and 3 radiators are definitely interchangable, as noted JD described Tank & cap shape & size is the only difference, If the OP finds the S3 radiator not fitting its because the original mounting has been altered to suit the conversion in the past.

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    The alloy ones on eBay all seem to be a different size to the one I have Mick.....

    Maybe a custom rad is in the only way to go.

    Cheers,
    Tricky


    Quote Originally Posted by mick88 View Post
    Tricky, have you looked into a heavier duty version of what you already have?
    My daily driver has a high capacity Torana radiator in it.

    Cheers, Mick.

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    I believe the square top 2A radiator tanks have a tendency to distort if you up the pressure, so best stick with a standard cap rather than going to 13lb for you Holden motor.

    Cheers, Mick.
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    1971 S2A 88
    1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
    1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
    1972 S3 88 x 2
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
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    S2a Rad Versus S3

    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    As far as I know the radiators are interchangeable (for same engine), but the 2a has a rectangular section top tank with a flat top and a large filler cap, where the S3 has a round section top tank. The attachment for the shroud is a bit different as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    The series 2 and 3 radiators are definitely interchangable, as noted JD described Tank & cap shape & size is the only difference, If the OP finds the S3 radiator not fitting its because the original mounting has been altered to suit the conversion in the past.
    This is the issue I have....

    Both the S2A/S3 alloy rads I purchased off eBay were 50mm too tall. For Camel (and every other Series Land Rover I take it), the front radiator support panel/slam panel sits on three brackets welded to the front crossmember and slightly in front on the crossmember. This then puts the rad directly on top of the front crossmember which restricts the height of the radiator to exactly 17" or 430mm high including tanks. The rads I purchased off eBay were 480mm high! Unless Camel is different to all other Landies out there this vertical dimension is fixed and confined by the front panel at the top and the crossmember underneath. Likewise the width of the rad is fixed at 20", or just over 500mm...

    Am I missing something here??? The original owner of Camel, farmer Gill, pushed the front radiator support panel/slam panel forward 50-60mm to allow for the LX Torana radiator forward of the crossmember. However, the bonnet did not sit on top of the front panel as intended (refer to attached pic...)
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    If you look closely in the last photo of Plugger you can see the rad behind the front panel with the bonnet sitting on top of it. This is the 2-core LX Torana rad that came with it. Putting the front panel back to its original position - 50mm rearward - positions the radiator on top of the front crossmember - am I right here?? Nothing I have purchased thus far off eBay has come close to fitting - either I am wrong or they are advertising falsely! Compounding the issue further is that the rad can't go rearward any further than its original position as the water pump and pulley is in close proximity!

    Just got a quote through this morning - a custom rad to suit is going to run me $1,250!!!

    If someone has an original radiator can they send me the outside dimensions, or check them with the ones I have provided above.

    Thanks all,
    Tricky

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