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    Two steps forwards etc....

    After sorting the brakes I noticed something dripping near the back left wheel and assumed I must have a leak from the wheel cylinder.

    Took the drum off to find it was oil from the axle, it had built up in the drum and me rotating the wheels had disturbed it. On investigation the new hub seal is leaking. Checked the other side and same story. New ‘blue box’ stuff.

    So this week has been replacing all the seals with new kelpro ones that happen to be in stock at local repco.

    Pain in the ....

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    "Blue Box Bits"

    Thanks for posting re: your leaking seals. It seems that so many have problems with the fit/finish/functionality/quality of the "Blue Box Bits", but they are still selling all manner of parts. It's just a price thing, right? Customers are attracted by the low cost of these parts comparative to other brands and get caught out a time or two before they learn.

    I'm a novice Landy fixxer-upperer and have quite a stash of parts which I've slowly been accumulating as funds permit, in readiness for a number of jobs. This stock of parts includes a number of items in blue boxes so the dilemma of course is do I fit them or put them to one side and buy better? Not a question for anyone else to answer of course, but I raise it because I'm sure there are many others in the same position.

    and thanks for showing us the trials and tribulations of working on Sid, he's come a long way!

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    Good Morning,
    I replaced my leaking blue box ones with kelpro ones from my local Repco.
    They still leak, so the seal wasnt the issue. Many UK LR owners have used BB one with no Issues.
    I used no sealant when fitting the seals.
    My S3 stub axles have the replaceable distance pieces, so put on two new ones, as I had replaced the other two
    I think my issue may be the hubs may be slightly out of round, where the seal sits, allowing it to weep.
    Picked up some high temp sealant from Repco, and will do the 3 leaking ones, Using the sealant.
    Also check your axle breather clear.

    whitehillbilly

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitehillbilly64 View Post
    Good Morning,
    I replaced my leaking blue box ones with kelpro ones from my local Repco.
    They still leak, so the seal wasnt the issue. Many UK LR owners have used BB one with no Issues.
    I used no sealant when fitting the seals.
    My S3 stub axles have the replaceable distance pieces, so put on two new ones, as I had replaced the other two
    I think my issue may be the hubs may be slightly out of round, where the seal sits, allowing it to weep.
    Picked up some high temp sealant from Repco, and will do the 3 leaking ones, Using the sealant.
    Also check your axle breather clear.

    whitehillbilly
    Thanks, I did use sealant and Sid has only moved about 50 meters since fitting.

    Maybe I’m being overly quick to judge the seals, but after so many failures of this brand I’m that way inclined.

    I’ll replace all and check again in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket88 View Post
    Thanks for posting re: your leaking seals. It seems that so many have problems with the fit/finish/functionality/quality of the "Blue Box Bits", but they are still selling all manner of parts. It's just a price thing, right? Customers are attracted by the low cost of these parts comparative to other brands and get caught out a time or two before they learn.

    I'm a novice Landy fixxer-upperer and have quite a stash of parts which I've slowly been accumulating as funds permit, in readiness for a number of jobs. This stock of parts includes a number of items in blue boxes so the dilemma of course is do I fit them or put them to one side and buy better? Not a question for anyone else to answer of course, but I raise it because I'm sure there are many others in the same position.

    and thanks for showing us the trials and tribulations of working on Sid, he's come a long way!
    I’m had mixed experiences. When I set out to restore Sid I read many rebuilds/reviews slating the blue box stuff but I didn’t give it much thought, reasoning that whilst not the best quality, I’m not planning a polar expedition in Sid.

    Experience has though been mixed. Most parts are fine and I’ve used them regularly as there’s often little economic alternative.

    I have though had some disasters, gear box bearings that were machined out of tolerance, steering box rebuild kids that were oversized.

    My reflection now is that I would hesitate to use them where there are critical machine tolerances involved or where replacement is overly difficult So I would not personally buy a bearing, inner seal, etc... but I’ve just bought their brake adjuster kit.

    Good luck with the build

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    Hmmmmm.... the "Blue Box" thing does seem to keep rearing its head. I've no doubt that some people have had trouble with their stuff - and that others haven't. I have used various parts from them over the years and, while they may not be as good in some applications as more expensive stuff, overall they have been no better, nor any worse, than a number of other brands. On balance, I'd have to say that overall I've got good service out of stuff from those apparently dreaded blue boxes.

    I sometimes wonder if the situation is similar to people going on about Land Rovers "always" being unreliable.....

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    Metal bashing during the evening this week. Messy workshop stopped play at the weekend, that point when you can’t find anything and can’t move for tripping over stuff. Got all the air lines and cables up on cable tray.


    Decided to fix this (that’s a scrap rad as a jig before anyone worries Rebuilding SidRebuilding Sid)


    Patchwork is the way to go.



    Et voila......

    Pretty..... non. But it should do the job.

    Finally got the rocker set back from machine shop, not sure what went on but don’t think they were convinced all the tappets were from a 2.25 landrover. Had to take the spare head in and mess with a box of spare tappets until they were happy.

    My next challenge is to learn to tig weld.... next big job is body repair’s so invested in a tig and just worked out that it’s going to take a lot of practice.

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    If by tappets you mean the rocker arms they are a bit confusing. When I stripped my head I didn’t much think about numbering the rockers and just bagged them, putting them back in the correct order took quiet a few attempts and head scratching or they don’t sit on valves correctly from memory there is a diagram in the manual.
    I can imagine someone not familiar with land rovers thinking something was wrong or missing

    Cheers Paul

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    Ha! Yes I think that was the issue. When I took the rockers off, I’ve always kept them threaded on a length of wire to keep order.

    I know the engine was running fine as I adjusted the valves many times. But it kept them happy.

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    Decided I’d burnt enough of the workbench practicing, time to get brave and tackle something on Sid.



    Dash panel with too many holes.


    Cut blanks to fill the big holes


    Step one, bit of distortion but nothing too bad


    Rough clean ready for next step


    And with the new holes cut.

    Tig is good fun, I have a lot more practice to do, but then Sid has a lot of holes to fill.

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