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    Pink slip - a few thoughts

    Yesterday went in to town in the 2a to get a pink slip. No problems.

    Drove quite nicely, but driving round town was noticeably more difficult than the 110 due to the larger turning circle and lack of power steering. Also, the wider torque spread of the diesel makes it a lot easier to drive round town.

    Especially coming home managed to maintain 100kph for much of the trip, and actually used the overdrive, although it is quite happy at that speed without the overdrive.

    I had put the tyres up to 35psi for the trip - they had been down to 15psi because of the soft ground round here, but it is starting to dry up a bit. This pressure improves the steering no end, but the ride is a lot rougher. About 25 is probably close to ideal for most of my use.
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    Good to hear that it’s got the green light for another year on the road!

    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Yesterday went in to town in the 2a to get a pink slip. No problems.

    Drove quite nicely, but driving round town was noticeably more difficult than the 110 due to the larger turning circle and lack of power steering. Also, the wider torque spread of the diesel makes it a lot easier to drive round town.

    Especially coming home managed to maintain 100kph for much of the trip, and actually used the overdrive, although it is quite happy at that speed without the overdrive.

    I had put the tyres up to 35psi for the trip - they had been down to 15psi because of the soft ground round here, but it is starting to dry up a bit. This pressure improves the steering no end, but the ride is a lot rougher. About 25 is probably close to ideal for most of my use.
    Cheers, Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by drfish View Post
    Good to hear that it’s got the green light for another year on the road!
    Doesn't seem to take much. When I got the OKA it had a recent pink slip, like four months before. Got it checked here in Vic, and there were TWO PAGES of quite serious issues for a RWC here. About a month after I got it it blew a front brake hose, no joke in a 6 tonne vehicle. All the hoses were soft and bulging a bit. Seems there were a few 'blind eyes' turned. I'm $10k in and it's still not roadworthy here.

    NB, not sayin' that John's car is like this. In fact, I highly doubt it. But annual inspections may not be all they're cracked up to be.
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    Ouch! They must charge more for roadworthys in Vic to ho to that level of details…

    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Doesn't seem to take much. When I got the OKA it had a recent pink slip, like four months before. Got it checked here in Vic, and there were TWO PAGES of quite serious issues for a RWC here. About a month after I got it it blew a front brake hose, no joke in a 6 tonne vehicle. All the hoses were soft and bulging a bit. Seems there were a few 'blind eyes' turned. I'm $10k in and it's still not roadworthy here.

    NB, not sayin' that John's car is like this. In fact, I highly doubt it. But annual inspections may not be all they're cracked up to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    ....... In fact, I highly doubt it. But annual inspections may not be all they're cracked up to be.
    I have never thought that they were. Even a casual glance at the difference (or lack thereof) in accident statistics between states with and without annual tests shows that they are pretty much meaningless. They are road safety theatre.

    Some examples -

    The most common defect that affects roadworthiness is tyres; it takes a lot less than a year for a tyre to go from roadworthy to not roadworthy. On one occasion i was able to point out to a police constable that the front tyre of the police car she was sitting is was obviously unroadworthy - "Nothing to do with me, garage's responsibility!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    I have never thought that they were. Even a casual glance at the difference (or lack thereof) in accident statistics between states with and without annual tests shows that they are pretty much meaningless. They are road safety theatre.

    Some examples -

    The most common defect that affects roadworthiness is tyres; it takes a lot less than a year for a tyre to go from roadworthy to not roadworthy. On one occasion i was able to point out to a police constable that the front tyre of the police car she was sitting is was obviously unroadworthy - "Nothing to do with me, garage's responsibility!"
    Admittedly four decades ago, but when I lived in Sydney it wasn't uncommon for people to "rent out" sets of wheels and tyres to pass the check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drfish View Post
    Ouch! They must charge more for roadworthys in Vic to ho to that level of details…
    Swings and roundabouts. The checks here are harsh, but they only happen when a car is being sold, or reregistered after a period of sitting around or for an interstate transfer. There is no regime of annual testing.

    My OKA is listed as a Light Truck, which changes things a little, but pretty much any RWC here is a thorough exam these days. There is far too much risk of a comeback if something bad happens. More remote areas of Vic may be more lax, but it seems unlikely. Some testers may be more sympathetic, but that is also becoming unlikely. The practise of buying a dodgy roadie has been almost stamped out. Even the dealers are forced to watch their step.

    In the case of my OKA, I'm glad that the checks were so intensive. If someone had been able to register it under the "pink slip", there could have been a disaster. The thing was dangerous, and had been for a whole lot longer than the four months since it got its last one. ( The perils of purchasing sight unseen. Bloody lockdowns... Couldn't travel to NSW to see it, been looking so long I didn't want to miss it...)

    Admittedly, some of it is nitpicking, but they almost have to here.

    Strangely, though, the practise of on the spot roadworthy checks seems to be a thing of the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drfish View Post
    Ouch! They must charge more for roadworthys in Vic to ho to that level of details…
    We recently had a RWC done on a D1, it cost $240, but in Vic it's only need at a change of ownership, not annually.
    The few thing if failed on were reasonable.
    It's a very thorough inspection with lots of compliance requirements for the inspector.
    If it fails and you take the car elsewhere, it raises red flags at Vicroads, and both the first and second inspectors.

    My 130 passed a NSW pink slip with a cracked brake booster, so clearly the brake test was not done, who knows were the brake test printout came from.

    When we moved back to Vic, no RWC was need as no change in ownership, so my 28 year old Defender has never had any sort of roadworthy inspection in Vic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
    who knows were the brake test printout came from.
    I could hazard a guess.
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    Recently got one done for a fellow member who shall remain nameless. It sailed through with only a couple of tyres needed, but that was due to age cracks which were hard to see, but were spotted.

    And yes, the dreaded VicRoads "red flag". The whole process is an online one through their portal, and VIN is recorded. I don't know if this is the case for all, but my OKA will require photographic evidence of checks done. Not what I have had done already, as they were preliminary, but when I present it for the formal test. That $240 is the price for the test. If it passes then that's it. In the case of the tyres I mentioned, if they supplied and fitted them then there was no retest fee. If I took it elsewhere then $120 was payable. The OKA, being a LT, can't go to just any tester ( thing is way simpler than for example a L322 ), but to a tester licensed for LT. That will be probably >$750, with the same figure for a retest. Pays to get it right first time.... Also, presentation really counts. So, when the underneath stuff is finished, the chassis and diffs are getting cleaned and painted. Shiny new brake pipes will be added ( hoses already done ), and everything shiny and fingers crossed.
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