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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie S View Post
    Hi there, can anybody advise me on the cost of getting your brakes shoes replaced with all new wheel cylinders, brake fluid replaced,rear brake hose replaced suspension bushes replaced, 2 new U bolts, stearingbox repacked with grease, Diff straps replaced. I supplied the suspension bushes and diff straps. All other parts soured by mechanic. I got charged $140 for the 2 rear wheel cylinders. There was $1300 in labor alone. All up the bill came to $2100 I thought this was a little much. I Know the guy so before I say anything to him thought I get your opinions. I have a series3 St/ wagon with 3 inch wide brake shoes on front not sure about width of rear. I hate that feeling of being ripped off. Are the brakes hard to do? I was going to give it a go but was running out of time befoe my next camping trip. Aby opinions greatly apprieiated. Ta Eddie S
    There'd be close to 1.5 days work in that, considering its an old car, and most likely there would of been troubles with old crap

    His parts sources are dear, sometimes it pays to go to a rover specialist, they source the parts far cheaper

    Think of it as a little lesson, playing with old junkers is for 2 types of people, DIY or willing to cough up

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    That ($2100) sounds about right for all that work, although your parts do seem a bit dear.
    My Series3 needed a full brake job, (drum skim, shoes, all new wheel cylinders, master cylinder overhaul, new hoses and steel brake lines plus bleed and check handbrake). That came to a total of $2001 and some cents.

    Having also changed all shackle bushes on an earlier Series 2A I am aware of how difficult that job can be if anything has seized up, I took 4 hours on one spring but fortunately the others were a bit easier at around 2.5-3 hours per spring.

    Hope that helps ease the pain.

    Disco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Denmark View Post
    That ($2100) sounds about right for all that work, although your parts do seem a bit dear.
    My Series3 needed a full brake job, (drum skim, shoes, all new wheel cylinders, master cylinder overhaul, new hoses and steel brake lines plus bleed and check handbrake). That came to a total of $2001 and some cents.

    Having also changed all shackle bushes on an earlier Series 2A I am aware of how difficult that job can be if anything has seized up, I took 4 hours on one spring but fortunately the others were a bit easier at around 2.5-3 hours per spring.

    Hope that helps ease the pain.

    Disco.
    Thanks mate, still does' nt make it feel any better I know this guy I thought he would look after me a little better. Yes parts were defiantly too high.

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    Want to know the best 15 minutes I ever spent - googling and downloading the series 3 factory workshop manual from the net. Most of what the average home mechanic wants to do is in there, and what the book doesn't tell you this forum probably can (so I've found). Or go and buy the haynes one if you don't have the download limit as its a big file. I printed and bound mine and it makes for great light reading at night.

    When I used to live in a country area without much access to mechanics except for dodgy ones who would disconnect things rather than fix them (but only unimportant things like cooling fan wires because the fan makes a noise, nothing serious) and whose idea of fixing a check engine light was to take out the bulb, I would do car servicing and auto electrical stuff for $40 an hour plus parts, and usually I told them what to buy and they would supply the oil and filters etc, I would usually include any grease or sprays etc as part of my labour charge. So maybe that is an option, find a good backyard mechanic and source the bits yourself, that way you can buy it on your terms and avoid the added on profit margin they make.

    Case in point - Ultra Tune (did I just say that out loud?) wanted $10 for an indicator bulb in a recent roadworthy on a work vehicle, whereas another place just grabbed one out and replaced it for free, no charge at all, (not even for the hours of labour it took to strip the entire car to pieces in order to fit the bulb) so it is all about perspective and where you go. They are reknowned for putting on 20 or 30% markups on parts and always try and quote on genuine parts rather than aftermarket. Tried to quote me over $700 supply only ex freight for a steering part from a Peugeot once and told me they had to be imported from France with a 3 - 4 week delay and were not available in Australia, funny how I managed to find the same part through a Pug dealer for $250 available by overnight freight delivered free. Kind of makes you think they didn't want the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfillery View Post
    Want to know the best 15 minutes I ever spent - googling and downloading the series 3 factory workshop manual from the net. Most of what the average home mechanic wants to do is in there, and what the book doesn't tell you this forum probably can (so I've found). Or go and buy the haynes one if you don't have the download limit as its a big file. I printed and bound mine and it makes for great light reading at night.

    When I used to live in a country area without much access to mechanics except for dodgy ones who would disconnect things rather than fix them (but only unimportant things like cooling fan wires because the fan makes a noise, nothing serious) and whose idea of fixing a check engine light was to take out the bulb, I would do car servicing and auto electrical stuff for $40 an hour plus parts, and usually I told them what to buy and they would supply the oil and filters etc, I would usually include any grease or sprays etc as part of my labour charge. So maybe that is an option, find a good backyard mechanic and source the bits yourself, that way you can buy it on your terms and avoid the added on profit margin they make.

    Case in point - Ultra Tune (did I just say that out loud?) wanted $10 for an indicator bulb in a recent roadworthy on a work vehicle, whereas another place just grabbed one out and replaced it for free, no charge at all, (not even for the hours of labour it took to strip the entire car to pieces in order to fit the bulb) so it is all about perspective and where you go. They are reknowned for putting on 20 or 30% markups on parts and always try and quote on genuine parts rather than aftermarket. Tried to quote me over $700 supply only ex freight for a steering part from a Peugeot once and told me they had to be imported from France with a 3 - 4 week delay and were not available in Australia, funny how I managed to find the same part through a Pug dealer for $250 available by overnight freight delivered free. Kind of makes you think they didn't want the job.
    Thanks mate,I offered the mechanic to get parts for him - that was my 1st big mistake 2nd was I new him, thought I could trust him 3rd mistake I've got the manuals thought it would be to hard to do brakes myself, should have had a go . I will be having a word to hoim when I see him at the gym... LESSONS LEARNED HARD....

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    transmission crossmember

    If you don't have a removable transmission crossmember on your vehicle, adapt the fixed one to be removeable. You will appreciate the effort taken next time you have to remove the tranny or transfer case rather than having to pull the floor and seats apart every time. Don't expect to need to take it out again? It's an old Land Rover. You will.

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    How hard is it to modify? Wouldn't you run the risk of structurally harming the strength of the chassis by cutting it out? Or is it only a protection for the box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Denmark View Post
    That ($2100) sounds about right for all that work, although your parts do seem a bit dear.
    My Series3 needed a full brake job, (drum skim, shoes, all new wheel cylinders, master cylinder overhaul, new hoses and steel brake lines plus bleed and check handbrake). That came to a total of $2001 and some cents.

    Having also changed all shackle bushes on an earlier Series 2A I am aware of how difficult that job can be if anything has seized up, I took 4 hours on one spring but fortunately the others were a bit easier at around 2.5-3 hours per spring.

    Hope that helps ease the pain.

    Disco.
    wow im glad you posted that i recently bought my 1975 lwb and my whole brake system was completely rebuilt at a cost of just over $2000. this left me wondering if i had payed to much, but i rest at ease. on the bright side it certainly make DIY seem much more satisfying.

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    So if one's willing to spend this much on brake overhauls wouldn't it make more sense to do a disc brake conversion? Obviously the exact cost may not have been anticipated I suppose.
    Reuben - I don't have a life I have a Land Rover

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    Pain a little better

    I looked into disc brake conversion - should have done it, did'nt think it was going to cost that much to rebuil my old brakes, evan though it included the the suspension bushes and a few other bits and pieces. I had a word to the mechanic, told him the very least he could have done is let me know the price of the parts and give me the chance to get them at a much cheaper price. Most suppliers I spoke to could have parts delivered the very next day. Told him I was'nt happy about overall price and he offered to "look after me" when we look at the gearbox. As I mentioned before, I know this guy I thought he would have charged less. Anyway the job is done breaks work well. Do'nt know if I will take him up on fixing my Landy again. Once again thanks to all who responded to my questions, its been a wealth of knowledge and a big learning curve for me. Going camping and 4WDriving this Sat so I can see how the old beast goes. Ta Eddie.
    Last edited by Eddie S; 12th November 2010 at 06:59 AM. Reason: spelling

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