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    Engine change

    Hey guys, long time away due to work. just got another s3 but a wagon. I am converting it to a ute an looking at taking the 186 out so the questions i have are:

    Will clutch an gearbox line up to my 225 diesel? if not what do i have to change?


    Cheers brian

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    Why would you put in a boat anchor like a 2.25, a great conversion is a 200tdi with the turbo removed, this engine gives out about 85 -90 bhp compared to the 63bhp of the 2.25 nastily aspirated........ as well as that the clutch and pressure plate from the 200 will fit..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by stock View Post
    Why would you put in a boat anchor like a 2.25, a great conversion is a 200tdi with the turbo removed, this engine gives out about 85 -90 bhp compared to the 63bhp of the 2.25 nastily aspirated........ as well as that the clutch and pressure plate from the 200 will fit..............
    To take it back to stock and have a bit more originality, I suppose.
    Also, with a little tweaking it can significantly enhanced. There's threads on this topic on the site here.
    I think it was the user isuzurover who's diesel 2.25 would out-perform petrol 2.25s

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    Hi Brian

    Was the S3 originally a four or a 2.6 six cyl before the Holden?
    If it was a four, your laughing as a 2.25 diesel will virtually go straight in and only need a bit of alteration to the wiring and a diesel return line fitted into the tank.
    Sometimes the exhaust pipe needs to be rehashed, anyway it's a good chance to pop some extractors on.

    Quote Originally Posted by korg20000bc View Post
    To take it back to stock and have a bit more originality, I suppose.
    Also, with a little tweaking it can significantly enhanced. There's threads on this topic on the site here.
    I think it was the user isuzurover who's diesel 2.25 would out-perform petrol 2.25s
    Hi Old fellow / korg20000bc

    I'll have a look for that thread.
    And while I have got you, I must have a look at whats doing in the next month or so, for a meet up of AULRO Tas members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    Hi Brian

    Was the S3 originally a four or a 2.6 six cyl before the Holden?
    If it was a four, your laughing as a 2.25 diesel will virtually go straight in and only need a bit of alteration to the wiring and a diesel return line fitted into the tank.
    Sometimes the exhaust pipe needs to be rehashed, anyway it's a good chance to pop some extractors on.



    Hi Old fellow / korg20000bc

    I'll have a look for that thread.
    And while I have got you, I must have a look at whats doing in the next month or so, for a meet up of AULRO Tas members.
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    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2...25-diesel.html
    Getting more from a series 2.25
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-3/5...tr-diesel.html

    Here's some of the discussions

    Sounds like a great idea to have a get together. Better put a post up about it!

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    What else is there to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by korg20000bc View Post
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2...25-diesel.html
    Getting more from a series 2.25
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-3/5...tr-diesel.html

    Here's some of the discussions

    Sounds like a great idea to have a get together. Better put a post up about it!
    Hi

    Well reading those, kept me quite for while, but what else is there to do on a rainy afternoon?
    Pity they didn't drop a couple more of cylinders onto the Rover 2.25, but then that's more weight and then the transmission wouldn't have taken the extra power.
    ???? what did they do in South Africa, wasn't there a six cylinder motor built there??


    Is there some way We can attract the attention of Tasmanian based members on this forum?
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    after yesterday doing alot of panel bash to get rear tub off i never got to the engine. it has a 6 cylinder firewall in it an looks like i have to mod it for vacumm butterfly etc

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    SouTH African engine

    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    what did they do in South Africa, wasn't there a six cylinder motor built there??
    Hello from Brisbane.

    The South Africans got p-ssed off waiting for Leyland to respond to their demand for a bigger engine before they lost out entirely to Toyota just like our lot did with the Isuzu and the Spaniards with the Santana.

    They opted for a locally built, but Australian designed, 2.6 litre OHC six that was originally used for Morris and Austin cars. This same motor may have been used in the Austin Tasman/Kimberley and/or 6 cylinder P76 (?) over here. They also used a larger Perkins diesel for a while - but that all changed with the eventual arrival of the Defenders and turbo diesels etc.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWB123 View Post
    Hello from Brisbane.

    The South Africans got p-ssed off waiting for Leyland to respond to their demand for a bigger engine before they lost out entirely to Toyota just like our lot did with the Isuzu and the Spaniards with the Santana.

    They opted for a locally built, but Australian designed, 2.6 litre OHC six that was originally used for Morris and Austin cars. This same motor may have been used in the Austin Tasman/Kimberley and/or 6 cylinder P76 (?) over here. They also used a larger Perkins diesel for a while - but that all changed with the eventual arrival of the Defenders and turbo diesels etc.

    Cheers,
    Yes, Atlantis Diesel Engines (ADE) made a copy of the Perkins 3.9L.

    The SADF actually switched to Toyota in the mid-80s and the LR "gharries" eventually were all sold off.

    Some guys have started looking for ex-DOD details on some of the caboose and FFR versions, but it seems very little info still exists.

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    Australian motor

    [,QUOTE=wrinklearthur;1660218]

    Well reading those, kept me quite for while, but what else is there to do on a rainy afternoon?
    Pity they didn't drop a couple more of cylinders onto the Rover 2.25, but then that's more weight and then the transmission wouldn't have taken the extra power.
    ???? what did they do in South Africa, wasn't there a six cylinder motor built there??

    [/QUOTE]

    Arthur,

    Hello from Brisbane.

    The South Africans used an Australian designed but South African built 6 cylinder motor. I think it is the same unit that went into the 6 cylinder version of the P76.

    Cheers,

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