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    SERIES 3 POWER STEERING CONVERSION

    I decided to stop having more spinach and will not put up with the old steering any more - I need to have a power steering upgrade.

    The beast is a 1979 military series 3 6cyl 2.6L. After long research I have found a kit that fits the 4cyl version and so I will fabricate and alternate parts and bits to fit.

    I will soon follow this post with images and precise step by step procedure once the kit arrives.

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Which kit have you gone for? Has your steering relay got oil in it? I've seen a few that are hard to steer just because the relay has run out of oil.

    Some pics of the beasty would be great - any other upgrades planned? An easy power upgrade is possible with a set of Cookeys extractors on the 2.6 - transforms how they drive.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    Power steering unit compatible for series lll LWB trayback

    Hi, has any one had any experience with the 'HST/TDZ Power Steering Kit' found at this website- TDZ Power steering for Series Land Rovers Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks

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    Like any ram type power steering system, the driver gets very little "feel" of the steering as all you can sense is the ease of the ram pushing or pulling the steering.

    I know the first time I drove a ram type, I had to pull over and stop for a minute to get over the sick sensation of the steering. You do get used to it but .....

    You are better to have a power assisted box type. There are people who have used Toyota Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrol boxes that mount on the outside of the chassis rail and the other option of the Range Rover p38 PAS box which also sits on the outside of the chassis and are about the most reliable part of a P38!

    You would also need to get a Defender or 110 steering column and shaft to replace the SIII steering box.

    Addit: I have merged all SIII power steering threads into a single thread.
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    RR column

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    If you change any part of the steering it must comply with current ADRs for the steering your using so you need a colapsable column.I used the RR 1 cause i got it cheap from ebay for $80 all up & it had a sports steering wheel fitted.The landrover steering uses rods between the box & relay so i wouldn't recomend using it there would be so much work just trying to work out how to use it."

    I'm figuring out how to fit a collapsible column into a S1 86" - how did the Rangie column mountings work in your setup?

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    You can get what they call electric assist power steering.

    Jaunt (people who do electric conversions on land rovers) fit an electrically assist power steering unit that assists turning the steering column if you get my meaning.

    Looks to be simple to fit but where you get it from & how much it is i don't know.

    It is supposed to improve the drive quality significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck View Post
    You can get what they call electric assist power steering.

    Jaunt (people who do electric conversions on land rovers) fit an electrically assist power steering unit that assists turning the steering column if you get my meaning.

    Looks to be simple to fit but where you get it from & how much it is i don't know.

    It is supposed to improve the drive quality significantly.
    I suspect those electric conversions wont last long before the boxes start cracking. The strain on the box will be huge and they're already old and fatigued. The heystee style ones are better in my opinion and you don't need to get the column engineered.

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    I have a 1971 2A shorty with 7.50 x 16 tires and all of the steering components are in good nick and it's surprisingly easy to steer, and i do have a few other series shorties to compare it with. I used to think that series vehicles needed PAS, but now i tend to think reconditioning the steering system/components is the way to go.
    As for the clutch, if you want a very light smooth clutch the ones from ACS (Adelaide Clutch Services) are great for old worn out hips, knees, and ankles.
    The ACS clutch kits are reasonably priced and good quality.


    Cheers, Mick.
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    Agree with that Mick. In my rebuild process I sorted out the steering and replaced the 31 10.5x15s with 16" 750-16s and the steering is very light now. I can easily go lock-to-lock with the car sitting still with me standing outside and turning the wheel through the open door. I ditched my power-steering conversion for this reason, even after buying all the components and getting the engineering approvals. Just unnecessary for me. I can see some people might have difficulty for physical reasons and that's where I think the bolt on kit is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mick88 View Post
    I have a 1971 2A shorty with 7.50 x 16 tires and all of the steering components are in good nick and it's surprisingly easy to steer, and i do have a few other series shorties to compare it with. I used to think that series vehicles needed PAS, but now i tend to think reconditioning the steering system/components is the way to go.
    Quote Originally Posted by akelly View Post
    Agree with that Mick. In my rebuild process I sorted out the steering and replaced the 31 10.5x15s with 16" 750-16s and the steering is very light now. I can easily go lock-to-lock with the car sitting still with me standing outside and turning the wheel through the open door. .
    I'd have to agree with the above comments.
    If the steering is overhauled, tyre pressures are correct and you don't expect to turn the steering wheel with one finger while the vehicle isn't moving then there isn't really a problem.

    Most people are used to power steering, there is a little bit more planning required without power steering.



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