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    Electric Fuel Pump

    Does anyone know what psi I would need from an electric fuel pump for a Weber 34ICH carby please? There's nothing on the carby fitting instructions and I haven't been able to find anything on the net. I've dropped Weber an email but all I have from them is the great wall of silence. I can see two Goss pumps rated at 3 - 4.5 psi and 4.5 -6 psi. Both the same price. I have a 2.25 petrol.
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    Most carburettors won't handle more than about 4.5psi and from playing with other types of Webers in the past they were quite sensitive to too much pressure. I used to use a pressure regulator with the side and downdraft ones and limited it to about 4psi. The needle and float can be overpowered and cause the carbie to flood with too much pressure while less pressure is fine as long as the flow is there.

    The standard mechanical fuel pump will work with the Weber and I have used a Facet with the Zenith in the past.

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    G'day All,
    Agree with Timj comments. I run a standard mechanical fuel pump on my 2.25Ltr petrol with Solex carb and have a permanent fuel pressure gauge fitted and reads 4 PSI at the output of the pump with 5/16" fuel line hose. Hope this helps.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timj View Post
    I used to use a pressure regulator with the side and downdraft ones and limited it to about 4psi. Cheers,TimJ.
    Hello Tim,

    Could you please let me know the details of the pressure regulator that you used? Also, where in the fuel delivery system did you fit it? Thank you.

    Kind Regards
    Lionel

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    Hi Lionel,

    This was on a Mazda Rotary with a 48IDA downdraft Weber and it was just one that could be bought from the local auto parts shop at the time, along with the glass inline fuel filters. It was basically the last thing before the carbie but from memory was mounted on the firewall. It was metal with a dial type adjustment on the top to set the required pressure.

    Here's one similar - Weber Performance Carburettors

    Cheers,

    TimJ.
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    I heard back from Weber who say the Weber Carbs are designed to work at 3.5psi . 4.5 psi tops, no more.


    cheers,
    D
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    use the 3.5 psi or lower, I found that using anymore and over corrugates and general off roading the extra psi would cause the float to "stutter" and flood the carby.
    Cheers Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timj View Post
    Hi Lionel,

    This was on a Mazda Rotary with a 48IDA downdraft Weber and it was just one that could be bought from the local auto parts shop at the time, along with the glass inline fuel filters. It was basically the last thing before the carbie but from memory was mounted on the firewall. It was metal with a dial type adjustment on the top to set the required pressure.

    Here's one similar - Weber Performance Carburettors

    Cheers,

    TimJ.
    G'day Tim,

    Been a while since your reply and I just thought of another question. Does this fuel pressure regulator need a bypass - return line back to the fuel tank? Or does it just handle the pressure happily as the electric fuel pump keeps delivering the fuel?

    Kind Regards
    Lionel

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    Lionel,
    It handles the back pressure from the pump.

    Below is a picture of my Series I which has two tanks, both Facets are plumbed into a pressure regulator.



    Previous owner had been running without a regulator but we found the Holden carby wasn't happy. Father-in-Law took the regulator off a Motorkana car he was scrapping, a few pneumatic fittings, some PTFE tape and all fixed. The non-return valve in one of the Facets isn't sealing so as I drive on one tank the motor runs & it slowly tops up the second tank (must get round to fixing that one day !).


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Lionel,
    It handles the back pressure from the pump.

    Below is a picture of my Series I which has two tanks, both Facets are plumbed into a pressure regulator.



    Previous owner had been running without a regulator but we found the Holden carby wasn't happy. Father-in-Law took the regulator off a Motorkana car he was scrapping, a few pneumatic fittings, some PTFE tape and all fixed. The non-return valve in one of the Facets isn't sealing so as I drive on one tank the motor runs & it slowly tops up the second tank (must get round to fixing that one day !).


    Colin
    G'day Colin,

    Thanks for the information and the photographs. Do you know the brand of the fuel pressure regulator? Is it adjustable and what pressure are you running it at?

    I know what you describe about the pumps - despite my getting a low pressure electrical pump to suit the Stromberg carburettor it is still not a happy camper. Not sure whether it is a combination of flow rate and pressure. Or just pressure. At the moment it is pumping to motor that is not yet running so there is no fuel consumption.

    The old distributor clamp bolt loosened off and I could not get the motor restarted to get the timing right on the 202 Holden motor before I replaced it with a electronic distributor. What is less helpful is that the 202 has been re-manufactured and for some reason there are no timing marks. I know where they should be as I owned a number of Holden cars with 202 motors when I was in my twenties.

    Then while I was trying to work at getting the engine running another domino tile fell. The starter motor that was ailing when I first bought the car decided to die. This coincided at the time of purchase with the original mechanical glass bowl fuel pump failing - hence my installation of a cylinder shaped Facet pump similar to the Land Rover original but tailored for the Stromberg carburettor.

    Once I get a new starter motor I will sort the fuel delivery system out. Next - find top dead centre to establish a timing mark. Then cross fingers the Bosch-clone electronic distributor gets everything to fire up and purr like a kitten

    Kind Regards
    Lionel

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