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    Help with Safari Wagon research

    Hi All
    I recently purchased a Series 3 Safari Wagon. A previous owner must have removed the compliance plate when they repainted the front radiator panel.
    I was hoping that someone here might recognise the vehicle and have any insights into its previous ownership. I know that it is a long shot but it would great to trace some provenance and maybe determine the manufacturing year and month. Have attached a couple of reference images. The most we know is that it was previously registered in Victoria with a licence plate of ECJ 736 and lived in the Emerald Lake Park area as it still has a resident's pass from 1992. Any help would be very much appreciated. CheersIMG_8694.jpgIMG_9169.jpg

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    Hi,
    I don’t know the vehicle but Emerald Lake Park is actually-Emerald Lake. Which is actually Emerald - in the Dandenogs in Victoria. I grew up in that area as a kid. Google it - it’s on the Puffing Billy Railway line. The park has a lake and water slides... Help with Safari Wagon research
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    Looks familiar......
    Someone tried to sell it to me a while back but I had too many projects.

    Chassis number would be on a plate on the bulkhead and also on one of the rear spring hangers.

    I think I deleted the emails from the seller because I probably asked for the chassis number.

    WP_20161120_15_50_38_Pro by Colin Radley, on Flickr



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    It looks reasonably straight and tidy from a distance.
    Once you get the chassis number you could get another ID plate made.
    There is a company in the UK that knock up all sorts plates out of various metals.
    Artmin Design at the Mini CNC Machining Centre
    Like Gromit say's, there should be a plate on the bulkhead straight in front of the gear stick above the transmission tunnel,
    however it may have had some carpet or some other type of sound proofing put over it, as sometimes happens.


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    Just looked through the other pictures and the ID plate is just above the transmission tunnel, or at least it was in this picture (just hiding behind the steering wheel).

    WP_20161120_15_52_48_Pro by Colin Radley, on Flickr



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    The issue will be the missing compliance plate as one would be expected when the vehicle is presented for registration. I know there was a thread a couple of years back on whether new plates can be obtained from the authorities but I am not sure of the outcome - logic says yes but then the govt does not run on logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    The issue will be the missing compliance plate as one would be expected when the vehicle is presented for registration. I know there was a thread a couple of years back on whether new plates can be obtained from the authorities but I am not sure of the outcome - logic says yes but then the govt does not run on logic.

    Garry
    Didn't realise that the month/year was on the compliance plate, was this unique to Australian built ?

    The AOMC will conduct a manual search for $85 based on the engine number (vehicles up to 1985) Engine & Registration Records — AOMC

    As for a replacement plate......one option would be from one being parted out. Date wouldn't match but if it is needed for a roady it would solve the problem.


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    '95 Defender Tanami
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    I am talking about the Australian compliance plate that appears on basically all Australian sold vehicles from about 1971 or so. Put on a compliance plate from another vehicle and that would most likely be considered vehicle rebirthing and the chance of gaol time.

    The compliance plate is not the same as the LR nomenclature plate that is on most series vehicles. This is the compliance plate off my 72 series 3 - note it has the VIN/Chassis number on it and outlines the ADRs that the vehicle complies with - not a lot back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I am talking about the Australian compliance plate that appears on basically all Australian sold vehicles from about 1971 or so. Put on a compliance plate from another vehicle and that would most likely be considered vehicle rebirthing and the chance of gaol time.

    The compliance plate is not the same as the LR nomenclature plate that is on most series vehicles. This is the compliance plate off my 72 series 3 - note it has the VIN/Chassis number on it and outlines the ADRs that the vehicle complies with - not a lot back then.
    I guess you're correct but as the plate is riveted to a piece of the vehicle that's easily replaced it makes you wonder how many have been replaced/lost over the years.
    I wonder if a Roadworthy tester would actually look for the compliance plate if the vehicle seemed 'standard' and they found the chassis number anyway.

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    Back to the original question....maybe an advert in a local paper (around Emerald) would turn up someone who knows it's history. Did the seller have any details of where it came from, I'm sure it was from Melbourne and then went to Korong Vale.


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    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    cross-checking chassis numbers with the compliance plate was a standard part of roadworthy inspections when I was doing them 20 years ago. Assume it's still the case. I'm fairly certain you can get a new plate made and fitted with approval, I recall a customer with an XY GT who had their plate stolen and a new one issued - not unusual for those cars, and why a lot of them keep the plates off the car these days.

    Cheers,

    Adam

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