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Thread: Wheels, tyres and studs ... again

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    Wheels, tyres and studs ... again

    Hi All
    I've spent the few weeks scouring the interwebs and the last hour or so reading through other wheel/tyre/stud threads so I don't double post but cant seem to find what I'm looking for.

    I have 5 x reasonable condition 272309 rims associated with my partially disassembled 1977 S3 88".
    My dilemma is caused by:
    • Sandblast then powder coat existing rims = about $140 each
    • Wolf style 6.5" (Bearmach?) wheels are about $180-$190 ish
    • According to several tyre stores I can't fit 235/85R16 on a 5.5" rim (needs >6") … I'd need to go for 7.5R16 which are up to about $100 each more expensive than a standard AT 235/85R16 (price difference drops if you go for the fancy tyres like BFG KO2).
    • I've heard that the Wolf wheels need longer studs (the 60mm ones) which sell for about $10 each ($10x20=$200).


    So my questions that remain unanswered from other threads:
    Is it correct that you CANNOT put 235/85R16 on a 5.5" (272309) rim?
    Is it legal in Australia to run studs that are short of flush with the wheel nut? (Wolf rims on standard studs)

    I think my options are:
    Buy the Wolf rims and use 235/85R16 (pending stud question) … selling my 272309 to offset it a bit.
    Keep an eye out for some good condition (so I don't need to blast/PC) black early defender 6.5" rims … these seems pretty scarce.
    Blast and PC my current rims and take the hit for more expensive 7.5R16 tyres.

    Any other options I've missed?
    Thanks
    Richard

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    I'd look for a different tyre shop, I'm running 235/85r16's on 16x5.5 rims, albeit they are ANR4636 rims, I think off an early 110? Haven't had a problem at all.. only issue you could have is when you let the tubes down, you could be more prone to rolling a bead off the rim?

    Sorry I can't help you with the wheel stud problem, I seem to remember needing to use later wheel nuts on Series' if you ran a later wheel? (ie. Wolf rim)

    Another option is to keep an eye out for second hand 7.50x16 tyres, you can usually find people selling off near new tyres off 79 series Landcruisers for next to nothing as they go for the bigger upgrade

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    Yes you CAN put 235/85 R16 on 5.5" rims, no it is not illegal. If a dealer wont do it go to another dealer or fit them yourself.

    How about cleaning the rims up yourself with a wire cup on an angle grinder & rattle can , You'd pay $140 really, send em over here , far out ! BTW Don't powder coat rims , its the worst thing you can do.

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    Thanks Loading and GoingBush
    Appreciate your advice.
    I thought I'd seen plenty of 235/85R16's on older rims. I'll call around and find a more cooperative tyre fitter.
    Certainly makes the tyre selection a lot easier.

    As for not powdercoating ... I'm more than comfortable with a wire wheel and a rattle can :-)

    I got 2 different prices for the sand blast and powdercoating, both about the same ... but given the price of new rims it seemed a bit ridiculous.
    I also guess paint is a lot easier to touch up / freshen up later.

    I might get the old tyres removed today and started the cleaning.

    Sticking with standard rims also removes the need to worry about the stud length :-)

    Cheers
    Richard

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    Use Primer Surfacer (also in rattle can) before applying your finishing coats to eliminate small irregularities and give a better finish.

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    Most tyres will have a spec in what rim size you can use.
    It is illegal to go outside of the tyre manufactures specification. Although many do ignore this.

    IMO powder coating is fine (but expensive) if done correctly.
    Every new steel rim you buy is powder coated without issues.

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    The other readily and cheaply available "tubeless" rim that will fit the larger width tyres without question is the standard D1 rim

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    Take your blank rims to a tyre place, and get them to check them, to see if they run fairly True.
    I wish I had done this to mine, before getting them Gal coated.

    whitehillbilly

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitehillbilly64 View Post
    Take your blank rims to a tyre place, and get them to check them, to see if they run fairly True.
    I wish I had done this to mine, before getting them Gal coated.

    whitehillbilly

    All you need to do is stick the blank wheels on the rear of a Landy (after its jacked up & on stands with the front choked) and run them up, if will be apparent which are good / bad .

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    Referring to stud length. As apprentice fitter-machinists we had it drummed into us "three threads through." Still burnt into my memory sixty years later.
    URSUSMAJOR

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