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    What are these Hubs??? from S3'75 109

    I was at the wreckers today and a burnt/melted S3 109 1975 had these front hubs. I have never seen anything similar and was wondering what they do and if they are worth getting.
    Seems a bit over the top just to lock the hubs.
    I pulled one apart for pics. Quoted approx $35 per side. Any help would be great
    Also it had a good con. Alloy bull bar and Radiator/bumper panel if any one is interested.

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    These are free-wheeling hubs. In my opinion, they are a good design, different to the common sliding dogclutch versions. I would only pay $50 a pair though. Are they 10 or 24 spline? As they are fitted to a SIII 109", I would guess 24 spline.
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    G'day Sideroad

    Yes, as Aaron IIA has replied they are freewheel hubs, those and the bolt on bull bar both look as though they are/were genuine accessories as fitted when this vehicle was bought new they are a very good design and quality, from memory they are the 10 spline type (coarse spline) and if you have the coarse splines in your Ser 3 or 2/2a they will fit, price is fair

    cheers

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    Dad's Jeep Wagoneer had them too when I was a kid in short pants. He always kept a screwdriver in the glove box so he could lock them.

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    my brothers series 3 shorty had them, they were selectro or something or other. worked well though.
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    G'day All, Just from the text 'said vehicle is a S3 109' and from the close up pic, the axle will be a invalid 24 spline shaft as fitted to S3 109.
    I don't remember the brand name but they are not Selectro hubs, Selectro hubs were of alloy construction, the outer part of the hub rotated and internally was a ?? multi start thread? arrangement which engaged the inner hub connecting the axle, both these types of F/wheeling were robust enough for the task, cheers Dennis

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    Sorry folks, I cant agree with peoples assessment of those hubs. They weren't Selectro (those were the ones with the big external cap which could disengage if you ran over a rock or stump ), they were something like SUE. There was a special tool to engage/disengage them, which was like a piece of cut flat rod with a right angle and half circle end. Although that usually got lost so as Rick said a large screwdriver got used.

    The problem:
    When engaged all the load is applied outward to the cast aluminium housing in only the two locations next to the cam locks and would blow out the side of the case. It was even possible to only lock one camlock. Many people even applied several large hose clamps to each hub to reinforce them and I saw one pair where the owner had a steel band made to reinforce the hub. This caused more problems when you had to remove the wheel.

    They are also huge when compared to other hubs.

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    G'day All, Like I said " They are not Selectro" dunno what they are, but they were a standard fitting by Land Rover, and imho Selectro were as robust as any others available at the time and I'm talking late 60's early 70's, and yes they did smash the outer part of the hub, but that was mainly due to driver error, driving techniques not a inherent design fault, just my observations from a long association with 4wd's cheers Dennis

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    [QUOTE=Dinty;761737] but they were a standard fitting by Land Rover,

    In my time at Leyland Truck and bus, no freewheel hubs were fitted at PMC during assembly to my knowledge. Maybe on large fleet orders but I never saw any come that way. Free wheel hubs for new vehicles were fitted by the retail dealer. In Qld. Leyland Truck and Bus, Rocklea were both the Brisbane area retail dealer and the Qld./Northern N.S.W. distributor. T&B did fit FW hubs to dealer vehicles on dealer request as well as to their own retail sales.

    The usual type fitted were the ones with the large twist knob, I think they were Selectro but memory is not clear. Didn't need to know, just write FW hubs on the workshop order. I know we did fit other types but normally only on customer request.
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    G'day All, What I should have said as fitted by local dealers at purchasers request, another type that was available at the time were AVM, cheers Dennis

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