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    1418 prefix engines

    We are seeking information on 1418 prefix engines (1958 Series II). Most particularly whether you have one and what capacity it is.

    We suspect that we will find both 2 litre and 2 1/4 litre.

    If you have one could you post an image, hopefully showing the engine number.

    Diana

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    Change to 2.25 litre engines

    Chassis numbers 143 (CKD RHD Export 88") 8 (year) xxxxx (serial number) should have petrol motors with numbers beginning 1418xxx01. In the Grenville records Chassis number 143800001 has engine number 141800070 and is referred to as Small Motor once the larger motor was introduced.

    The first 2.25 litre motor in the NSW Grenville records is in chassis number 143900019 (CKD RHD Export assembly - has engine 151901575) - sold 24.6.59. It is listed as 88 Std 2 1/4 Big Motor. Officially that makes it a 1959 model. Parts Catalogue (Series II and IIA Part No 605957 Dec 1968) state that Chassis numbers starting 1419, 1429, 1439, 1449 and 1459 in 88" vehicles as the changeover. Have not listed the 109 chassis numbers.

    It will be interesting to see if there are any vehicles that one expects to see one type of motor having the other type fitted.

    Bob

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    Hi there Diana

    I will check when I get homem, but I think both Fire enignes have those prefexes.

    They are both 1959 models.

    PS - flying out later today, and heading to Blinman on the weekend for the Jamboree

    Enjoy

    Wayne

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    Thanks Bob

    The issue is all about the Command recon SIIs issued to the Army, there is a furphy (which may or may not be true) that some CR were fitted with the 2 litre engines. So far we have no evidence of any Army CR having a 2 litre and as all CR are 1959 and have engines in the 109" sequence* we are assuming all were 2 1/4 litre.

    Even ARN 107-671 which was the 1958 trials 88" (chassis # 142800001) was fitted with an engine (151800031) in the 109" engine number sequence.

    What we are interested in is to check that the "knowns" about the 1418 sequence engines being 2 litre is true in the real world.

    Diana

    * From 1951 up to 1959 Series II engines within a RHD wheelbase/model irrespective of assembly location were fitted with a engine stamped in the RHD Home Market sequence of the same model (until all serials in that sequence were used up then they went to the next sequence -> Export -> CKD etc. )

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    2L Spread Bore 1418041(20?) The last 2digits are very hard to make out and don't show up at all in the picture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ellard View Post
    Hi there Diana
    I will check when I get home, but I think both Fire enignes have those prefexes.
    They are both 1959 models.
    PS - flying out later today, and heading to Blinman on the weekend for the Jamboree
    Enjoy
    Wayne
    Thanks Wayne

    The numbers we are looking for should be 1958 short wheelbase vehicles (the 4th digit 8 = year) but who is to say where the engines are fitted these days.

    Enjoy Blinman, talk to them about our LR 65th Anniversary ideas!

    Diana

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    Hi Diana,

    Can't really help but I have a 1958 SWB chassis no. 142800417 but has a holden engine . I don't even know what engine it is supposed to have but I assume a 2L but I dont see any sign of where the electric fuel pump should have been bolted on the bulkhead. bell housing bolts are to suit a 2L. A guy in NZ has some photos on the Series 2 UK site of a 2L can't remember the engine number but it's a 1418

    regards
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Thanks Bob

    The issue is all about the Command recon SIIs issued to the Army, there is a furphy (which may or may not be true) that some CR were fitted with the 2 litre engines. So far we have no evidence of any Army CR having a 2 litre and as all CR are 1959 and have engines in the 109" sequence* we are assuming all were 2 1/4 litre.

    Even ARN 107-671 which was the 1958 trials 88" (chassis # 142800001) was fitted with an engine (151800031) in the 109" engine number sequence.

    Parts Catalogue (Series II and IIA Part No 605957 Dec 1968) state that Chassis numbers starting 1419, 1429, 1439, 1449 and 1459 in 88" vehicles as the changeover. Have not listed the 109 chassis numbers.

    All 1958 109" engine numbers from 15180001 onwards should be 2 1/4 engine as that was when it was introduced - according to the Parts Catalogue above.


    What we are interested in is to check that the "knowns" about the 1418 sequence engines being 2 litre is true in the real world.

    Diana

    * From 1951 up to 1959 Series II engines within a RHD wheelbase/model irrespective of assembly location were fitted with a engine stamped in the RHD Home Market sequence of the same model (until all serials in that sequence were used up then they went to the next sequence -> Export -> CKD etc. )
    Diana,

    It will be interesting to sort this out if there are some obviously original 2 litre engines but I think you are right in that it is a "Furphy"

    Wayne - have a good weekend! We will have to try and get over to Blinman if you do have a 65th Anniversary.

    Bob

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    Thanks Steve

    That's an interesting chassis number, SII RHD Export. Do you know any of it's history?

    I can tell you that it originally had engine 141801829 a spread bore 2 litre by our reckoning.

    Have you ever wondered about the remnants of red colouring?

    Don't let Ellard hear about it, because it was oraginally a fire engine with a truck cab. Given it's date I would guess an orignal Rover factory FE.

    It was first owned by the Research School Physical ???? delivered 25/7/1958
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    A thread has been created for discussion of Steve's vehicle in the SII SIIa section.

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2...re-engine.html


    Please continue discussion on the vehicle in that thread.

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