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Thread: QLD rego, blue plates, restorations and engine reversals

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    QLD rego, blue plates, restorations and engine reversals

    After many hours on the phone to the engineering department of Qld transport

    if you are restoring a land rover that had previously been converted to another motor and was blue plated for that conversion

    you can revert to the original motor and get registration without another blue plate

    IF and ONLY IF

    there were no modifications done to the chassis or bodywork.

    you just tick the unmodified box on the registration application form

    and off you go...


    ANY modification(s) to chassis or bodywork then you MUST have a blue plate to reregister the vehicle in QLD

    hope it helps someone...
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    I guess this means that 109" Series Land Rovers which originally had the Rover six cylinder engine, (and used a complete kit which didn't modify the engine brackets on the chassis,) will be the only ones that don't require the re-engineering.

    All the four cylinders where there was a scallop our of the front cross member will require a second retrofit blue plate.

    Does modification include replacement parts, like the 6 cyl radiator, where the bottom outlet was often moved from one side to the other?

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    if you can fit orignal parts with out modification it appears you will be fine.

    there are many 4cyl -> 6cyl holden fitments that dont modify anything and use a bolt onto the motor modified mount.

    luckily mine was one of them

    i replaced the radiator support panel with an original one and it is back to as built ...
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    My experience has been that if its a standard motor which has a different engine number from that last recorded all they do is have an inspector come out and confirm the engine number and away you go, no sweat , no dramas.

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    their own guidelines booklet contains the necessary requirements

    http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/c7..._vehicles2.pdf

    relevant bit being

    in section one

    Replacement engines
    =============

    Replacement engines that are offered by the
    manufacturer as an optional engine for that model of
    vehicle may be fitted. For such conversions, all
    components, including suspension and brakes, must be
    identical to those of a vehicle originally produced with
    the optional engine.
    this includes original equipment engines as long as no chassis or body modifications are needed.
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    and my vehicle went thru qld transport without a hitch thus proving the point beyond all doubt.
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    What did they make you register it as? Ute, Van, Wagon, ???

    I was just down there with my 109 and they had my running round in circles jumping hoops until I told them to give me my stuff and I left.

    I have the 109 troop carrier style S3, on the compliance plate it states 'utility' but then they said that I couldn't have a utility with a wagon body shape!? wtf! O and now they say that I have to have class 6 ctp as well. So I have to pay more ctp because i have less seats????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    What did they make you register it as? Ute, Van, Wagon, ???

    I was just down there with my 109 and they had my running round in circles jumping hoops until I told them to give me my stuff and I left.

    I have the 109 troop carrier style S3, on the compliance plate it states 'utility' but then they said that I couldn't have a utility with a wagon body shape!? wtf! O and now they say that I have to have class 6 ctp as well. So I have to pay more ctp because i have less seats????????????
    When I worked at Leyland Truck and Bus in Brisbane, all our retail sales were registered as utlities except the station wagons. This is quite logical as all are variants of the base model called by Landrover "the truck cab" with accessory bodywork fitted as required, hardtop canopy, soft top canopy etc.
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    When I returned from PNG about 36 years ago , I brought with me a FJ40 with removable hardtop.When it came to registering it they couldn't decide whether it was a Ute, station wagon or a sedan.Very few people had 4-wheel drives in those days ,and most were comercial vehicles belonging to farmers or companies. I lived in a small country town and they asked me to take it to Brisbane for inspection,where they decided it was a sedan or wagon,I can't remember which. However I insisted it was a Ute (because it was the cheapest to register.)They only agreed when I said I would remove the top and sides right there and then and put everything in the back. W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    What did they make you register it as? Ute, Van, Wagon, ???

    I was just down there with my 109 and they had my running round in circles jumping hoops until I told them to give me my stuff and I left.

    I have the 109 troop carrier style S3, on the compliance plate it states 'utility' but then they said that I couldn't have a utility with a wagon body shape!? wtf! O and now they say that I have to have class 6 ctp as well. So I have to pay more ctp because i have less seats????????????
    panel van

    was only way i could get it as seating 3 people
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    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
    "If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
    'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
    “What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
    "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." Marcus Aurelius

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