Something that scared me off is the requirement to have a 2 way radio for all club runs. I can understand that if going out bush but this seems to suggest that all runs are perilous affairs or high speed affairs or some such thing where you need that sort of contact. I've spent enough time working in the bush (the real bush, ie, WE were surveying the tracks so they could the build roads, the bulldozers followed US) to know I didn't buy Wombat to do that... well, not on a regular basis. It just seems like an odd requirement that you need that sort of thing for ALL club events. I guess that attitude fits in with my distrust of the yahoo element I've observed in owners of modern 4 wheel drives and yes, I know that's stereotyping and like all stereotypes, unfair to a large part of the subject group. Nor am I particularly interested in being in a group that values money spent ie, the 'mines more rad than yours' element - funny how I've also little time for most cycling groups either due to the 'must the have latest' thrust. Yup, I'm well and truly a retro-grouch and would rather sit around talking about vehicles valued for what they are and what they represented when new than how much money is involved. [/rant]

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