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    Series III heater valve

    The heater control valve on Australian built Series III's is different to the UK version.
    They are still made, for a Ford, but they are about $80 last time I purchased one. You have to take it apart and re-assemble to get it to fit.

    Looking through some parts I've collected I came across another valve that's been fitted to a Series III.
    Is it just an aftermarket one that someone has fitted in the past ??

    Original type on the right.
    DSCN4931 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    DSCN4930 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    An original in situ.
    DSCN3047 by Colin Radley, on Flickr


    Colin
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    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
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    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
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    The left hand tap is a replacement for a slightly later Ford (XA>>) than the metal tap (>>XY) on the right. The metal tap was also used on the P76. None of them lasted for more than a few years before seizing up.

    Example metal:

    Ford Water Heater Tap XW XY ZC ZD radiator valve Ford Quality | eBay

    Example plastic:

    Heater Tap Valve Ford Falcon XA XB XC Fairlane ZF ZG Fairmont 1972-79 6cy Engine | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    The left hand tap is a replacement for a slightly later Ford (XA>>) than the metal tap (>>XY) on the right. The metal tap was also used on the P76. None of them lasted for more than a few years before seizing up.

    Example metal:

    Ford Water Heater Tap XW XY ZC ZD radiator valve Ford Quality | eBay

    Example plastic:

    Heater Tap Valve Ford Falcon XA XB XC Fairlane ZF ZG Fairmont 1972-79 6cy Engine | eBay

    Thanks bee utey,
    Just Googled and eventually found the Ford tap, a lot cheaper than the metal one.
    Would make a low cost replacement allowing me to turn off the heater in summer. Mind you, there's not much heat from the heater so it hasn't been a problem so far.....


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    Just found that the spring clip that holds the cable to the valve is 1/2 the price of the valve !

    The Holden tap has less bracketry Holden HQ HJ HX HZ WB Cable 2 Way Heater Tap | eBay

    Cable clip (I think this is the correct one) Holden Cable Clip Heater Tap HJ HX HZ WB LC LJ 9320791267040 | eBay

    Still a cheap alternative to the metal valve.

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    There's also the universal straight metal tap, comes supplied with cable clip.

    Heater Tap Valve Universal Type Car Hot Rod 16mm (5/8") Cable Type Inline | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    There's also the universal straight metal tap, comes supplied with cable clip.

    Heater Tap Valve Universal Type Car Hot Rod 16mm (5/8") Cable Type Inline | eBay
    I saw those but I had it stuck in my mind I needed the 90degree one.

    The straight one will save trying to get a short angled hose and with a very short straight hose will be 'fixed' to the heater. Might give one of those a try.....

    Thanks bee utey


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    There's also the universal straight metal tap, comes supplied with cable clip.

    Heater Tap Valve Universal Type Car Hot Rod 16mm (5/8") Cable Type Inline | eBay
    Any idea how the cable on the Ford connects to the pin on the operating arm ?
    Was there a fancy clip or a loop in the end of the cable inner ?

    Going to get one but just need to work how to connect the cable.


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Any idea how the cable on the Ford connects to the pin on the operating arm ?
    Was there a fancy clip or a loop in the end of the cable inner ?

    Going to get one but just need to work how to connect the cable.


    Colin
    The solid inner core of the operating cable for the straight tap was formed into a 3 turn loop around the round pin. Easy to do with pliers. The 90 degree plastic tap had the wire core formed into a short zigzag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Thanks bee utey,
    Just Googled and eventually found the Ford tap, a lot cheaper than the metal one.
    Would make a low cost replacement allowing me to turn off the heater in summer. Mind you, there's not much heat from the heater so it hasn't been a problem so far.....


    Colin
    If you only want to turn it on or off seasonally, why not just put a plumbing ball valve in the heater hose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjc_td5 View Post
    If you only want to turn it on or off seasonally, why not just put a plumbing ball valve in the heater hose?
    Nice to have it on for a cold start and then turn off without stopping later in the day.

    The inline valve is ordered and I just need to track down a cable because mine was missing. I could put the inline valve in and manually operate until I can find a cable Series III heater controls & dash vents

    Next i need to look at my Series I which has had the heater permanently on for the last 11 years.......

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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