What to buy...S2a or S3 Game

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

A Game is just an SIII in fancy dress. A marketing exercise. Why would one be worth any more than any other SIII?

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If you look around you will see that they are worth more than any other SIII......
It's the rarity factor, exclusiveness, the need to own something that few others have or whatever.

A bit like a Toyota with a Lexus badge.....[bighmmm]


Colin

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

A Game is just an SIII in fancy dress. A marketing exercise. Why would one be worth any more than any other SIII?

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XC Cobra [biggrin]

Are the Game and the 2a both 3-seaters?
,W.

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Originally Posted by gromit

As others have mentioned, the Game has a potentially higher resale value because it's a limited edition. One on here a while back was sold to someone in the US, they would love the fact that it was unique to Australia. I'm sure there would also be a market in the UK as well.

You need to work out why you are buying it....is it an investment or are you going to actually use it ?

I own a Defender Tanami, also a limited edition. Is it worth more than a Defender of similar age & condition ?? It has some accessories fitted by Land Rover and a sticker pack. The Game is similar but at least they are uniquely numbered (Land Rover couldn't even tell me how many Tanami's had been sold).

You mention that the IIa is tidy & possibly partly restored, this might mean much less to be spent on it before it gets back on the road (might !). What condition is the Game in ?
As John mentioned, is the synchro on all 4 gears important to you ? That could steer the decision one way or another although a later box can be fitted to the IIa with a few modifications.

You say it's a IIa, are the lights in the front panel or in the wings. If headlamps are in the front panel then decision made.....get the IIa



Colin

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I agree with the last part, if the headlights are in the front panel as opposed to the wings, I'd be going the IIa. If its a late IIa, go the Game.

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Originally Posted by B.S.F.

Are the Game and the 2a both 3-seaters?
,W.

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Hi B.S.F

Yes both 3 seaters & both reupholstered.

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Originally Posted by gromit

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You need to work out why you are buying it....is it an investment or are you going to actually use it ?

I own a Defender Tanami, also a limited edition. Is it worth more than a Defender of similar age & condition ?? It has some accessories fitted by Land Rover and a sticker pack. The Game is similar but at least they are uniquely numbered (Land Rover couldn't even tell me how many Tanami's had been sold).

You mention that the IIa is tidy & possibly partly restored, this might mean much less to be spent on it before it gets back on the road (might !). What condition is the Game in ?
As John mentioned, is the synchro on all 4 gears important to you ? That could steer the decision one way or another although a later box can be fitted to the IIa with a few modifications.

You say it's a IIa, are the lights in the front panel or in the wings. If headlamps are in the front panel then decision made.....get the IIa

Colin

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Hi Colin

Hope to be a daily driver. The Game appears to be in good condition, a few dings but is registered and comes with RWC.

Why the IIa if headlights in the front panel??
1965 IIa, headlights in the front panel. It is registered and also comes with RWC

Craig

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Originally Posted by ceb

Hi Colin

Hope to be a daily driver. The Game appears to be in good condition, a few dings but is registered and comes with RWC.

Why the IIa if headlights in the front panel??
1965 IIa, headlights in the front panel. It is registered and also comes with RWC

Craig

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Craig,
The IIa was about the time the headlamps moved to the wings.
Headlamps in the front panel are more sought after (Series I, Series II & some IIa) because it's the iconic Land Rover look.

Metal dash, headlights in the front panel, no plastic components what more could you ask......

Can you double-de-clutch ? If not you'll have to learn with the IIa. Changing up from 1st to 2nd can be OK, but 3rd down to 2nd you have to 'double shuffle', selecting 1st is usually done at a standstill.

My 18 year old son has an '89 Liberty and the synchros have 'gone'. He double-de-clutches on the way up & down without even thinking. Went out with his boss the other day in a manual and he double-de-clutched and his boss asked WTF ? It doesn't come naturally to me and I have to think about it...I kept messing it up and finally worked out I was approaching junctions etc. too fast and didn't leave time to double shuffle !


Colin

All Synchro box?

A true LR Driver should be able to master the Std. S2A box no probs. Double declutch? No worries.

That is one of the challenges of owning an ancient LR if you can do something that your mates can't do on a proper vehicle.

A driving Instructor who took 'er indoors for a drive was amazed that she could DD, but she was brought up in East Africa in the days of the Mil Jeep & so very very young.[biggrin] [biggrin]


If in doubt, buy both. Job done.[biggrin]

Basic rule for collectable vehicles - something unique always trumps the run of the mill - a limited run 300 vehicle Game is always going to be worth more than an everyday series 2 which still are a dime a dozen - they are there if you look.

Same process applies if just looking at series 2a - lights in the mudguards (in Aust they are not wings) are less desirable than headlights in the radiator panel.

Garry

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Basic rule for collectable vehicles - something unique always trumps the run of the mill - a limited run 300 vehicle Game is always going to be worth more than an everyday series 2 which still are a dime a dozen - they are there if you look.

Same process applies if just looking at series 2a - lights in the mudguards (in Aust they are not wings) are less desirable than headlights in the radiator panel.

Garry

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thankyou [thumbsupbig]