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    Soldering copper radiator tank

    Hi,

    Has anyone soldered a copper radiator tank in situ before? I've got a hairline crack at the top in plain sight, and I suspect the radiator is good otherwise (leak tested a few years ago, so I doubt it's riddled with holes or anything).

    I know it's possible to get replacements (or have it done professionally), but removing/reinstalling is a huge amount of extra work, plus it's an earlier Series II "thick" type and I can only find cores, not tanks.

    I considered JB Welding it - is this legit? Seems like snake oil.

    I'm wondering if an 80W bench soldering iron would be up to job? Also, should I drain the coolant first to stop it wicking all the heat away? Any other advice is welcome.

    - Will

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    I haven’t done one for 30 years but last time I used a 1” solid copper plumbers iron heated by blowtorch, and used the blowtorch directly for plenty of pre-heat. I used 60/40 electronics solder with a bit of extra bakers fluid flux. I drained first and washed/flushed thoroughly afterwards.

    If I were doing it now I’d use oxy and 15% silver, but that doesn’t work so well on plastic so I suspect it’s a skill I won’t use again.
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    Thanks Brad. Not sure about my chances with an 80W soldering iron if you needed a blowtorch...

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    A electric soldering iron will not be enough
    .If the crack or metal is the slightest bit dirty will make it difficult.
    People who still do this sort of thing usually.try and sand blast the spot to be soldered in a cabinet blaster.
    Professional repairers usually use grades of solder not normally available to the layman.
    It's not impossible to fix in situ....................but a big plumbers copper iron and blow torch is minimum.

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    Fair enough, seemed worth asking. Thanks for the guidance everyone. I wonder if a plumber would do it? Blowtorch and a copper iron is a bit too much of a tool investment for what is probably a one-off job.

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    I would take it out and to a Old school radiator shop to repair.
    I am lucky to have such a place here in Northern NSW.

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    The other aspect to consider is why is there a crack in the first place? If on a soldered join no problem just resolder but if a crack in the actual metal then why there? If you just solder over the crack will most likely be back - will need a patch soldered over it.
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    I have had success using a hot air gun to preheat the whole area and keep it hot while soldering. As mentioned above, the whole join needs to be scrupulously clean, and for most cracks you should consider patching with sheet copper or brass. Note that the radiator is brass not copper.
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    The top of the radiator tends to last longer if you don't use it as a seat or support when working in the engine bay.
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    The questions about how the crack formed are reasonable - I don't lean on it while working in the engine bay (much...), but it's formed along the edge of one of the indentations that (I assume) are there to stiffen the tank. Most of the other indentations all have weld/solder patches along the same edge - I suspect it's just a latent weak part of the design, and it's finally given out after 60 odd years.

    I think I'll have a go at it myself first after hearing JDNSW's experience - I have a heat gun and a soldering iron already, and if I make it worse, I'll bite the bullet and pull it out of the car. I'd love to avoid the extra work of removing/reinstalling it when the crack is staring you in the face as soon as you open the bonnet. If anyone near Sydney's done it before, invite yourself around to help and I'll shout you lunch!

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