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    Unhappy Advice for P38 owners ....... get a bus pass !

    I went to start the Rangie this morning and got the dreaded "Engine Disabled" message.

    Unless you have your own diagnostic computer (Faultmate etc) this message may as well say "Call a Towtruck"

    I did see it coming, a few mornings recently I have found the car has locked itself overnight (Its kept in a locked garage so I don't normally lock it)

    Anyway, need to start on flushing out the electrical gremlins.

    In the mean time, its dust off the bus pass...... YAY

    Dave
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    nobody wants to reply...just in case they catch the same virus

    i'm not concerned as, after app. 4mths., mine is still in 'push only mode'
    it was all back together after an engine rebuild and some bolt ons, but missing at revs on the 2 back cylinders.
    so it's back to standard to try and diagnose the fault....
    all my mates with Cruisers keep whispering something about lemons
    i've just gotta wait a little bit longer to blow them away

    ...........tasi

    oh btw buy a faultmate ... best thing i ever did.

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    Possibly the EMS number in the BECM is not the same as that in the EFI ECU...(= the EMS).

    Using Faultmate, note the "EMS" number on the BECM 'page' and the EMS number in the EFI (petrol) page. They need to be the same.

    If they are not the same, the EFI ECU number is the correct one, you need to write this number in the BECM EMS field and save it to the BECM memory. Switch everything off and disconnect the faultmate. Try and start the engine...see what happens.

    If this is not the issue then it may be the sensors...either crankshaft or camshaft. May need to back probe the leads to see if you're getting a pulse...

    let's know what happens!

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    I love my FaultMate MSV-2 too Tasi It has saved me heaps of grief and identified stuff that I screwed up myself.

    One day when I can afford it, I'm gonna get me a multi-vehicle FaultMate so I can help with these "one-off wierdo" incidents for the princely sum of a "fair to medium" bottle of red. I get a half-decent discount from BBS now, so hopefully that day will not be too far off.

    Dave - I get the same message on mine if I try to start the engine after the car has immobilised itself. It is normal AFAIK.
    To fix: all I do is press the lock button on the remote with the key in the 2nd ignition position... and the message changes to "START ENGINE" and all is good.

    If this is not "normal" for your car, perhaps the immobilisation settings have been altered in the BeCM? I guess you have already checked the obvious things like good earths, battery charge etc? Did you also get the spurious "Gearbox fault" message that is a dead giveaway for a drained battery?

    Cheers, Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoges View Post
    Possibly the EMS number in the BECM is not the same as that in the EFI ECU...(= the EMS).

    Using Faultmate, note the "EMS" number on the BECM 'page' and the EMS number in the EFI (petrol) page. They need to be the same.

    If they are not the same, the EFI ECU number is the correct one, you need to write this number in the BECM EMS field and save it to the BECM memory. Switch everything off and disconnect the faultmate. Try and start the engine...see what happens.

    If this is not the issue then it may be the sensors...either crankshaft or camshaft. May need to back probe the leads to see if you're getting a pulse...

    let's know what happens!
    i'll tell my mate , he was checking all the Earths and connections today and your suggestion may be a big help ... before panic sets in about buying a new BECM
    thanks Hoges, much appreciated.

    .........tasi

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlandie View Post
    In 1948 Landrover showed the world they could make the best 4wd in 1995 they showed the world they could could make the biggest heap of rubbish on the road
    And in 2010 you showed you don't know what you are talking about.
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    We finally found the culprit who left the note on LavisLane's Rangie a few months back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tasi devil View Post
    all my mates with Cruisers keep whispering something about lemons
    Here's a new idea for a bumper sticker.....

    "I'd rather catch the bus than drive a cruiser...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlandie View Post
    In 1948 Landrover showed the world they could make the best 4wd in 1995 they showed the world they could could make the biggest heap of rubbish on the road
    People who have never driven a P38 give themselves away all too easily.
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