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    Tune up Series I: Set timing with timing light? Oil filter type?

    Am going to do a few tune up things to my 2L 1955 Series I.

    I've looked through the manual, but can only find a section on setting the points/timing using an on/off globe process. Can the timing be set with a strobe timing light?

    Also - the manual details the process to change the oil filter, but doesn't specify anything about the filter. Is it a 'cartridge' type filter, or something like the fine metal mesh like VW used as an oil filter in the early Bugs. Or to put it another way, do I need to go and buy a filter or is it something 'cleanable' which you then put back in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    Am going to do a few tune up things to my 2L 1955 Series I.

    I've looked through the manual, but can only find a section on setting the points/timing using an on/off globe process. Can the timing be set with a strobe timing light?

    Also - the manual details the process to change the oil filter, but doesn't specify anything about the filter. Is it a 'cartridge' type filter, or something like the fine metal mesh like VW used as an oil filter in the early Bugs. Or to put it another way, do I need to go and buy a filter or is it something 'cleanable' which you then put back in?

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    there are no timing marks on the damper wheel at the front of the motor.
    you have to carefully rotate the engine to top dead centre via the hatch on the flywheel casting and when you think that tdc is correct and the timing marks, according to the manual are all right, then use the timing bulb method to set the timing.
    land rovers of series one type are very forgiving and an few degrees one way or the other are superfluous , in my opinion.......

    as for filters, cannister types were the norm and virtually unobtainable today, I have some but for me, I recommend just to change the oil at least 2 times a year and a pre flush before changaing the oil.
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    Please forgive my ignorance,but what is a pre flush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.S.F.Nut View Post
    Please forgive my ignorance,but what is a pre flush?
    its a solution that you add to the oil prior to draining when it is time to refill with new fresh oil.
    Many manufactures make it, Nulon, and many others.
    Its an additive type thing that is added to the oil when hot, just before you drain the oil to change it.
    I use it on al my vehicles and it keeps them i good condition.
    It basicly removes all the sludge from the sump with a mild detergent and flushes it out when the oil is changed.
    You could use it in the engine if only doing a 20 min journey or idling for 20 mins then drain the oil and refill and change the filter.
    Phew.....
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    I have never been happy with the results of the timing bulb method, no matter how carefully I did the setting process. I find road test then adjust, then road test etc to work well. I just do it in 1st gear around the paddock and if the engine pulls strongly with near idle speed I am happy. I dont think there is much danger of damage from over advance using hi octane fuel in these low compession engines. Maybe someone can refute this? Perhaps someone has tried marking the flywheel or front pulley then using a timing light. Their expierences would be interesting.

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    My '55 S1 has a full flow filter (spread bore 2l) and the cartridge filters for this are readily available.....same as 6 cylinder Rover.
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    Thumbs up timing the engine via this method

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartley View Post
    I have never been happy with the results of the timing bulb method, no matter how carefully I did the setting process. I find road test then adjust, then road test etc to work well. I just do it in 1st gear around the paddock and if the engine pulls strongly with near idle speed I am happy. I dont think there is much danger of damage from over advance using hi octane fuel in these low compression engines. Maybe someone can refute this? Perhaps someone has tried marking the flywheel or front pulley then using a timing light. Their experiences would be interesting.
    I seriously considered that method many years ago. It all seemed very difficult to accurately mark the front pulley in any way if it was still attached to the vehicle. I did not want to remove it and tackle the exercise.....so this is what I did and it works.
    I hope that i am not making waves with this method because many like to stick to tradition methods, no matter what! that is fine by me!
    The method was explained to me by an old and very expericenced mechanic and this is what I did.
    Its very simple really:
    Drill the manifold and tap a suitable stub into it to take a VACUUM hose rubber pipe.
    Attach the pipe and run the engine to obtain the highest reading on the gauge.
    This is of course after doing the static timing procedure as per book.
    This allows for all the wear and slack in you precious cars engine and drive train, to be taken up.
    The highest reading takes into account all the wear and the engine is therefore tuned to its optimum reading and performance.
    I check mine all the time and it runs like a well oiled sewing machine.
    hope this is of some help and try it, without any fear of doing something wrong or damaging to your vehicle...
    This is a very old, tested and tried method of dealing with, old worn engines, tuning them to perfection, taking into regard the wear and tear in them.

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    The Vacuum guage method is realy the best way to do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by groucho View Post
    The Vacuum gauge method is really the best way to do it...
    so is that how you do IT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mildred View Post

    so is that how you do IT ?
    Won't go there

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