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    Alcohol fueled violence.

    Anyone see the news last night, or Stateline?

    The Police association released some pretty confronting footage from CCTV cameras in Wollongongs CBD that showed a group of males beating another male. he was knocked to the ground and when his head hit the ground he was out cold, then they continued to lay the boot into his head and body whilst he was knocked out on the ground.

    The police association is calling for 1:30am lock out and 3am mandatory close for all licenced premises in NSW, this would only affect between 300-400 licenced premises state wide.

    We have had an increase in alcohol fueled violence in bathurst over the summer period to date compared to last year. Im not sure what it is but some groups of guys go out every weekend, get a skin full and then look to start a fight as entertainment.

    Whilst licenced premises need to be held accountable to a certain extent the justice system needs to be handing down harsher penalties to these thugs to show society that it wont be tolerated. I've lost track of the amount of people who we have charged in town in relation to alcohol fueled violence and the magistrated give them section 9 bonds and the such, which is totally **** weak.
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    Yep, I might be showing my age, but I can not understand why anybody would want to go out and get a skin full at 3am in the morning. In Newcastle they have trialled a a lockout system which means Pubs close at 3am and the results are a reduction by 30% in alcohol fueled violence. I cannot blame the Police for not wanting to be punching bags for grogged up idiots!!!

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    While alcohol is a big part of the problem as in young people with high disposable incomes, getting absolutely smashed all the time. When I was young we were lucky to be able to have a few on a Friday / Sat night, rarely drank through the week, could not afford to and did not want to.
    Attitudes have also changed and there seems to much more intense aggression and no let up. I believe this is because of the combination of alcohol/energy drinks/cheap drugs such as ice.
    What happened to getting into a fight and when your opponent had had enough it was over. It seems people just dont stop anymore and are intent on really smashing some ones head in.
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    I think another issue is the introduction of energy drinks. There are warnings on cans of the stuff not to drink more than 1-2 cans a day yet people go to the pub and drink several vodka and redbull or other combinations of energy drink and alcohol.

    Times are changing thats for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace View Post
    Anyone see the news last night, or Stateline?

    The Police association released some pretty confronting footage from CCTV cameras in Wollongongs CBD that showed a group of males beating another male. he was knocked to the ground and when his head hit the ground he was out cold, then they continued to lay the boot into his head and body whilst he was knocked out on the ground.

    The police association is calling for 1:30am lock out and 3am mandatory close for all licenced premises in NSW, this would only affect between 300-400 licenced premises state wide.

    We have had an increase in alcohol fueled violence in bathurst over the summer period to date compared to last year. Im not sure what it is but some groups of guys go out every weekend, get a skin full and then look to start a fight as entertainment.

    Whilst licenced premises need to be held accountable to a certain extent the justice system needs to be handing down harsher penalties to these thugs to show society that it wont be tolerated. I've lost track of the amount of people who we have charged in town in relation to alcohol fueled violence and the magistrated give them section 9 bonds and the such, which is totally **** weak.
    A lockout system didn't work on the Gold coast. The clubs need to be held accountable. They get them drunk, take their money then kick them to the steet for someone else to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace View Post
    I think another issue is the introduction of energy drinks. There are warnings on cans of the stuff not to drink more than 1-2 cans a day yet people go to the pub and drink several vodka and redbull or other combinations of energy drink and alcohol.

    Times are changing thats for sure.
    i agree! there was a news article here recently about someone that died from alcohol piosoning from drinking alcohol mixed with energy drinks. they dont feel the effects of the alcohol as much...

    and for the record, here in the US you can not buy alcohol at ALL from 2:00am through 6:00am. some states you cant buy alcohol on sundays at all... (needless to say i dont live in one of those states )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace View Post
    Anyone see the news last night, or Stateline?

    The Police association released some pretty confronting footage from CCTV cameras in Wollongongs CBD that showed a group of males beating another male. he was knocked to the ground and when his head hit the ground he was out cold, then they continued to lay the boot into his head and body whilst he was knocked out on the ground.

    A fundamental change in the way society operates today, partly (I think) due to the general lack of consequence of their actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace View Post
    The police association is calling for 1:30am lock out and 3am mandatory close for all licenced premises in NSW, this would only affect between 300-400 licenced premises state wide.

    We have had an increase in alcohol fueled violence in bathurst over the summer period to date compared to last year. Im not sure what it is but some groups of guys go out every weekend, get a skin full and then look to start a fight as entertainment.
    Would be interested to see how the time of the video corresponds to the proposed lockout/close times. They are still too late in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace View Post
    Whilst licenced premises need to be held accountable to a certain extent the justice system needs to be handing down harsher penalties to these thugs to show society that it wont be tolerated. I've lost track of the amount of people who we have charged in town in relation to alcohol fueled violence and the magistrated give them section 9 bonds and the such, which is totally **** weak.
    Again no consequence for their actions, why should they change the way they operate




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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    Meanz, is the minimum drinking age 21 all over the US? It's 18 down here.
    yes. 21 is the legal age to purchase or drink alcohol, although purchasing underage would be difficult, drinking underage is not.

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