R 380 to a LT95 Tfr

[101RRS]

Has any one joined a R380 gearbox to an LT95 tfr case.

I am just thinking about options - not committed to anything. I am working towards upgrading my 101s 3.5 to a 4.6 and was also thinking about gearbox options. I currently have the LT95 with an overdrive and find transferring in out of overdrive a bit tiring and was thinking a 5 speed would be nice but need the LT95 tfr to run the winch. I also a good LT95 box tfr unit in the back yard that could be used.

So has anyone cut of the LT 95 gearbox from its transfer and put on a R380.

Yes I am aware of other issues such as bell housing/gearbox length issues etc but all these are workable. Just not sure of joining the R380 to the Lt95 tfr - I do not want to wreck my old LT95 only to find it is not doable.

Thanks

Garry

[rick130]

An LT230 has the PTO output on the back of the t/case, wouldn't that be easier and adapt it to the winch ?

[101RRS]

An LT230 has the PTO output on the back of the t/case, wouldn't that be easier and adapt it to the winch ?

No - the PTO goes out the side of the tfr case at the bottom and is gear driven not chain driven. It is not like any other configuration.

Thanks

Garry

[wrinklearthur]

Hi Garry

I would like to know more about the PTO you have, is it a factory built one and does it have one or two gears in it's gear train and which gear does it mate to in the transfer box ?

I went close to winning a rear PTO for a LT77, taking a bit of a punt that it was on a LT230 transfer, as the input gear is interchangeable and can be obtained with the PTO dogs. I didn't win so it doesn't matter now.

I don't have a LT85, to compare with, but I do have some accessible 2A transferboxes and some LT230 transferboxes. Let me know if you need any comparisons from these.
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[woko]

New pto winch(best set up)

Does the PTO out of the transfer box look like this?

[abaddonxi]

Check this out -
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/modified-z...95#post1566547

[101RRS]

Hi Garry

I would like to know more about the PTO you have, is it a factory built one and does it have one or two gears in it's gear train and which gear does it mate to in the transfer box ?

I went close to winning a rear PTO for a LT77, taking a bit of a punt that it was on a LT230 transfer, as the input gear is interchangeable and can be obtained with the PTO dogs. I didn't win so it doesn't matter now.

I don't have a LT85, to compare with, but I do have some accessible 2A transferboxes and some LT230 transferboxes. Let me know if you need any comparisons from these.
.

The pto is the factory fitted version that is fitted only to the 101s as far as I am aware. I provides output laterally (sideways) to drive the winch (which is mid mounted outboard on the chassis next to the gearbox and tfr) unlike most other ptos that have drive fore and aft. Unlike the perenti winch PTOs which come off the bottom of the tfr and are chain driven the 101 ptos are gear driven. I do not know the actual gear arrangement but it is unique to the LT95.

A pto for a LT77 will be for the LT230 if it is original and will provide drive fore and aft. Transfer cases other than the LT95 are not relevant to my situation.

Cheers

Garry

[abaddonxi]

Came across this a couple of days back.

http://roversclub.org/docs/101Winch.pdf

[wagoo]

You are no doubt aware Gary that LT95 t/cases have been cut off and adapted to other transmissions.
Aside from an adaptor plate,you will need what is called a spud shaft, or a hollow shaft with the 10 spline R380 pattern on the inside and the LT95 spline pattern on the outside.The shaft must be self supporting on its own bearings within the transfercase, because the mainshaft on Lt77/85s/R380s are not designed to cope with side loadings. They could be described as full floating, like a halfshaft, wheras the LT95 mainshaft could be likened to a semi or non floating halfshaft.IMO the extra length of the adaptor will be a serious issue for a 101 unless a lot of effort was put into making the spudshaft, boring out the LT95 mainshaft gear and welding it to the spudshaft.This is because the mainshaft stickout length,from their respective gearbox housing are similar for both the R380 and LT95.
Haven't done the math, but you will lose a little of your low range gear reduction,because 1st gear on the lT95 box is lower than the R380.
Bill.

[101RRS]

Thanks Bill - all very good points and something to be considered - hence why I am interested if there is anyone who has actually done with change.

If it hasn't been done then I certainly not going to be the guinea pig.

Cheers

Garry