diesel options

[123rover50]

What are your thoughts on the Isuzu 4jb1 versus the Perkins 4 .182/Mazda HA engines into a series?
Both geared cam drive.
Both can be turbo,ed.

Isuzu kit ex UK cheaper than the Perkins.
Perkins , wet liners not sure about the 4j.
Thanks.
Keith

[shorty943]

Been a Perkins fan for many years, mainly in boats.

The beauty of Perkins is the availability of parts, ANY farm machinery place carries them, Massey Ferguson still run Perky engines.

That being said, I am dropping a Daihatsu 3.8 into my S3 Landy, only reason being, I got the entire engine and 5 speed gearbox nice and cheap.

[isuzurover]

What are your thoughts on the Isuzu 4jb1 versus the Perkins 4.108 / Mazda HA engines into a series?
Both geared cam drive.
Both can be turbo,ed.

Isuzu kit ex UK cheaper than the Perkins.
Perkins , wet liners not sure about the 4j.
Thanks.
Keith

Isn't the 4.108 1.8L capacity??? In which case there isn't much comparison with a 4JB1.

[101RRS]

What model series are we talking about - the L series diesel out of a Freelander would be a great engine for a series 1. Is ECU controlled but it is first generation ad just turns up injection pump when required (an down as well). Can be tweeked to give about 80kw and 280nm. Is a nice compact engine whose characteristics suit a series setup really well.

The other obvious engine is the 200tdi or 300tdi - basic has about the same oomph as the L series but can be tweeked a bit more if required. Certainly the 200tdi can basically bolt in with few issues.

Garry

[isuzurover]

What model series are we talking about - the L series diesel out of a Freelander would be a great engine for a series 1. Is ECU controlled but it is first generation ad just turns up injection pump when required (an down as well). Can be tweeked to give about 80kw and 280nm. Is a nice compact engine whose characteristics suit a series setup really well.

The other obvious engine is the 200tdi or 300tdi - basic has about the same oomph as the L series but can be tweeked a bit more if required. Certainly the 200tdi can basically bolt in with few issues.

Garry

Isn't the L series freeloader diesel the one that has all sorts of head problems???

The two engines 123 has suggested are largely bulletproof and have timing gears fitted (properly designed and manufactured, unlike the $$$ Zeus abominations).

After owning a 300Tdi, I wouldn't recommend it be fitted to anything, ever.

[BigJon]

Isn't the L series freeloader diesel the one that has all sorts of head problems???

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No, K series 1.8 petrol has liner issues.

[101RRS]

Isn't the L series freeloader diesel the one that has all sorts of head problems???

No - absolutely not - one of the most reliable diesels you will find anywhere.

Garry

[Lionelgee]

What are your thoughts on the Isuzu 4jb1 versus the Perkins 4.108 / Mazda HA engines into a series?
Both geared cam drive.
Both can be turbo,ed.

Isuzu kit ex UK cheaper than the Perkins.
Perkins , wet liners not sure about the 4j.
Thanks.
Keith

Hello Keith,

Not sure which engine you were referring to having wet liners in the line "Perkins, wet liners not sure about the 4J". Knowing stuff all about Perkins motors I went to Wikipedia and they say that the following: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Perkins_engines"]List of Perkins engines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Family type code ..... ED
Engine Ref no..... 4.108
Description... Four-cylinder, 108 in³ (1,760 cc) diesel engine. Dry sleeves. Used extensively in vans and cars, Ford Transit, Bedford CA - Opel Blitz, Alfa Romeo Giulia, Alfa Romeo Giulietta, SEAT 131.

Yes sometimes Wikipedia is not the most reliable of things - so which of the Perkins and the 4J do you think could have wet liners? Or was it another Perkins motor?

Kind Regards
Lionel

[123rover50]

Sorry guys I stuffed it up.
I had a 4.108 in my yacht. I really meant the 200 series 4.182 Mazda HA.
Its higher reving than the Isuzu but dont know much about the Perkins liners.
Keith

[DasLandRoverMan]

The HA was a popular conversion into vehicles with knackered V8's in the 80's, both N/A and turboed, as was the SLT.
Both HA's and SLT's were generally regarded as solid reliable engines which were excellent for use in a Land Rover, and as many Range Rovers.
Unfortunately as the vehicles they were fitted to have rotted out and been scrapped the numbers available have dropped off a lot over here, and when they do come up for sale they command a good price as those in the know are aware how good they are, and will pay good money for them.

I learned to drive in an SLT powered 2 door Rangie, and scoured the country for one to repower my 110 CSW a couple of years ago.
I was lucky to find one at a decent price, and have been very impressed with it in terms of power, torque and economy.

It also has the added bonus of being able to run on just about anything combustable and oily, I find used 0w/30 synthetic makes it go rather well, along with veg oil and a few other combinations.