Another Puma Gearbox Oil Question

[Allan]

Can Castrol Syntrans Multivehicle 75w-90 be used in place of the Castrol bot 130 in the Puma gearbx. I've changed all the other tranmission oils but not sure on what to use in the gearbox. I don't want an expensive error. Any help would be great.

Allan

[rick130]

Not available here AFAIK ? (I think it's the old SMS-X or equivalent ?)

[Allan]

What would you suggest I use? Or should I stick with the dealer for gearbox oil changes. I've just got out of the dealers grip and I am enjoying the money I save

Allan

[TimNZ]

Hi Allan, AFAIK the Bot 130 has been superseded by Bot 328. I got my oil in from the UK when I ordered some other stuff: Britcar (UK) Ltd > LR006519 OIL - TRANSMISSION (G) at $26.26/l + freight.

Hope this helps,

Tim

[rick130]

Allan, I really don't know as I don't know what BOT130 is, I have no idea and the TDS I have is pretty rudimentary.

It just may be a fairly ordinary PAO/ester based gear oil with a slightly customised friction modifier package for the MT82, and that may be all it is.
If you're game I can suggest some excellent 75W-90's that have proven good shift performance over a wide variety of gearboxes.

In no particular order.

1. Motul Gear 300.
2. Castrol Syntrax 75W-90
3. Redline MT90
4. Amsoil MTG

The first two are dual rated GL4/5's but are yellow metal safe, the next two are lower additised GL4's.

I really like Gear 300 in the R380 and I've used Syntrax for 290,000km now in a Patrol (except for 3,000km with MT90 and the prior 90,000km or so with Fuchs 75W-90) with zero leaks, zero noise and excellent performance still @ 390,000km.

All four are dedicated manual gearbox fluids.

[TimNZ]

Hi Rick, if it helps the info on the back of the BOT328 bottle is:

SAE 75W-90
API GL 4

(Sorry if I'm stating the obvious! )

Cheers,

Tim

[rick130]

Thanks Tim, I have a TDS but as is common with these things it only has kinematic viscosities, VI, pour point, etc on it.

The really interesting stuff is all proprietary.

[pushrod]

Allan,
i did an early life gearbox oil change on my Puma and went with the LR factory spec oil ..CASTROL BOT 328 ( this replaced BOT130M)
same LR part# LR006519 as before... not cheap .. $58/litre, but mine is still in warranty, so better use the recommended stuff...

this BOT328 is only available through the dealers with above part#
i`ve tried everywhere , including ford dealers ( new Focus uses the same oil),
but no luck... no ones imports it into OZ.. i gave in after a week of phone calls and got it from Trivett LR .. they had it in stock.

there`s a great sticky on how to do the oil change with pix on the
defender2 forum:
Defender2 - View topic - Engine, Gearbox & Transfer Box Oil Change

[Allan]

Allan,
i did an early life gearbox oil change on my Puma and went with the LR factory spec oil ..CASTROL BOT 328 ( this replaced BOT130M)
same LR part# LR006519 as before... not cheap .. $58/litre, but mine is still in warranty, so better use the recommended stuff...

this BOT328 is only available through the dealers with above part#
i`ve tried everywhere , including ford dealers ( new Focus uses the same oil),
but no luck... no ones imports it into OZ.. i gave in after a week of phone calls and got it from Trivett LR .. they had it in stock.

there`s a great sticky on how to do the oil change with pix on the
defender2 forum:
Defender2 - View topic - Engine, Gearbox & Transfer Box Oil Change

Thanks for the link and to all thanks for the help as usual. At least the oil can be baught at the dealer easily enough.

Allan

[justinc]

yes use the factory approved BOT oil, I know it is costly but there is only 2.4 litres of it, and a trans overhaul is way more expensive...

JC